I’ve still been trying to figure out a mid - long term way of making a decent profit.  I looked into VB, but find it too complicated at the moment.

Over the weekend I visited my local casino in the Uk.  I had noticed a something and wanted to see if it would work.

I split the single zero wheel into 8 groups as follows:

ROH
ROL
REH
REL
BOH
BOL
BEH
BEL

I had a bankroll of £100

I waited until 1 of the groups had hit twice, then bet 1 unit (£1) on each of the numbers that fell into each of the above groups that had hit since I monitored the wheel.  This took 3 spins.

Everytime I won, I’d place the exact same bet on each group that had hit.  Every time I lost, I would repeat the bet, but also place 1 unit on each number within the new group that hit.  Flat betting only, no progressions.

The idea behind it was that I’d noticed that it would take a lot of spins before each group had hit at least once.

After 28 spins, I was up £100.  2 groups still hadn’t hit. 1 group had hit 9 times, 1 group 7 times and 4 groups 2-4 times. My bankroll didn’t drop below about £85 during the whole session.

I decided I’d made enough profit and left.

What I am thinking is, was this just luck or am I on to something?  Have any of you more experienced players found that these 8 groups hit a near even amount of times each over a short session?

Any comments or thoughts for improvements?

Spin a few times, and if a certain number, colour, column or row doesnt come up after a certain number of times, then bet on that section with the use of martingale.

I have thought of another method, which is similar to the above, not seen marketed elsewhere, and highly profitable, very fast.

The only problem is, yes it is martingale.
I have played real with a bankroll of £1000 and doubled my account in days. (Live Roulette wheel, not RNG).

I then tried the strategy on live auto roulette wheel to speed things up, and I lost half my bank account due to the martingale effect, so I exited with break even.

The strategy is as follows, any feedback on improvement would be much appreciated, along with backtest of 5000-10000 spins.
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A - Numbers 1-12
B - Numbers 13-23
C - Numbers 24-36

If 1st spin lands on A, then place a £1 bet on A.

If the next spin lands on A, then you win £2, and start again, and place a bet of £1 again on the last dozen which is A.

If the next spin lands on B, then you bet £2 and if it lands on B, you win a net total of £3.

So all you are doing is betting on the last dozen the ball landed on with a martingale method.

The wagering is as follows:
£
1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 13, 20, 30, 45, 67

90% of the time, you win before 7-8 spins, after 8 spins, you are entering danger zone.

Any improvement on this strategy to reduce risk is welcome.

How many of you have worked up a system from a few hundred or thousand spins only to find your system fall apart when wagering real money?  How many hundreds or thousands of dollars have you lost due to insufficient time developing and testing a system to fully understand its ability to stand up to long term play?  Realize this: One usually does not attain success without hard work and most importantly, patience.  Roulette is a game of patience because you have to wait for your opportunities, opportunities that are few and far between. Here is a revelation: All roulette systems work (for a little while).  If you do short term testing, many systems will appear to be viable until they are employed on a longer term basis.

I have been studying random numbers for quite a few years now and find them fascinating.  I sometimes wonder if I have an obsessive compulsive disorder but no matter, I find it enjoyable.  One thing I learned early is just because a particular number or group of numbers hasn’t appeared doesn’t mean it is “due”.  For example, in the last month, I have focused on double street numbers (line bets) such as 1-6, 7-12, etc.  From out of approximately 30,000 spins this past month, I have been monitoring 1-6, and the most spins without a hit I have observed is 44.  Then, I referenced this site called freewebs.com where a guy simulated a million roulette spins and one of the line bets failed to appear for 89 spins. 

I would not have imagined such an event could occur, but it is a good example of why testing is so important and if you are testing systems utilizing 1,000 or 10,000 spins it is unlikely you have sufficiently exercised your system.  I have witnessed the dozen bet not appear in 25 spins, but the million spin test found a dozen bet that did not appear in 35 spins.  Go here to see other extremes: http://www.freewebs.com/turbogenius/whatsthelongest.htm.

My minimum standard for concluding I have a solid system is 30 days without a loss. Even so, I would need a million-spin test to be 100% confident of an ironclad system.  Yep, I need a program to do that. 

Many of you are probably asking: “Are you nuts?” 

Assuming you play roulette for recreational purposes and don’t care about losing the money, then go ahead and play a system that has passed a 1000 spin test.

But, assuming you want to take roulette to the next level, a level where you can be certain of success, and that real money invested in this enterprise will have positive long term returns, then applying a comprehensive testing strategy will be the key to your success. And, if you are one of the few people that have attained success at roulette through hard work and patience, you will probably affirm that: “I am not nuts”.  And, the positive outcome of spending more time testing before employing a system with real money is the money in your pocket that was not lost from utilizing a weak system.

Be prepared, the majority of you will never develop a winning system that can because it is a difficult task and beyond the scope of the average guy and special abilities are needed to accomplish this feat.  Remember also, the odds are against you and it’s hard to beat the house advantage.  After all, if it was easy, the casinos would be out of business.

We had an interesting outing on Saturday at a smallish casino. This casino only had three wheels of which the one wheel had a 6/10 dominant drop but what made it really playable was the fact that the deflector next to it had a 3/10 hit rate. So between the 2 of them we had 9/10.

There was only two of us and although we did play as a team it wasn’t our proper type of team play. I played one method whereas my accomplice played another technique.

We did very nicely and kicked ass simply because the scatter was so managable. In no time we were way up and immediately drew the attention of the shift boss who walked over and pretty much took position right opposite us just on the otherside of the wheel right next to the dealer. We greeted him and he nodded back (no smile). Before the next spin he lent over and mumbeled into the dealers ear. My mate said he heard “nmb” mentioned. So we were ready to leave the table but waited to see what was going down. So the dealer spun up and sure as hell nmb were called earlier. We did predict though but didn’t play and it was clear that we could still get a bet in. The dealer had a high roller on the table as well and he was calling bets after the spin. He did not play vb but he believed the dealer was targeting him so he placed after the dealer spun a couple of chips and then called three call bets (high value). So to accomodate him we still had time.

Next 5-6 spins and we hit beautifully. Even though they were taking more off the high roller than paying out to us, we were obviously annoying the shiftboss. It was at this stage that he told the dealer to change balls. The dealer changed the small ball for the big ball. I asked the shiftboss why he changed the ball and as far as I know balls only get changed when the ball is shot out of the wheel. That is standard practice. Well he just answered me that they do change balls 2-3 time a day. Just there routine. Yeah right. To make a long story short. Although we’d most probably still have had an edge it was clearly not what it was with the small ball and the large ball definately displayed irregular and inconsistant scatter. So we did not place one bet further and left.

The bets should only placed on the areas A,B,C,D,E and F with the prefix (0)

These letters represent areas where you place your bets! 1st dozen,second dozen,third dozen ,bottom row,middle row and top row respectively.

Bets should be placed as follows

1)50p
2)50p
3)£1
4)£2
5)£4     here we also cover zero with   50p
6)£8           ”          ”            £1
7)£16         ”          ”            £2
8)£32         ”          ”            £4
9)£64         ”          ”            £8
10)128         ”          ”            £16     you should allhave won before you get to this point!!! And just keep repeating

If you do hit any zeros then press repeat bet and continue!

When you enter Iamprojectx just type in the spins that appear 0-36 and eventually you will hear a bleep(sound) which simply alerts you to get ready to place bet!!

todays password is BF1B77FF

Please let me know here what you all think!! 

Visual Ballistics is a part of advantage play (AP) and uses physics and calculations to determine where the ball will ultimately enter the rotor. Add for scatter and you are there.

There are a couple of aspects to VB.

1) Level wheels are mostly out. Only a few techniques exist for playing level wheels, of which I know one. Although there is a longterm advantage using this method the advantage for me is too small and I avoid genuine level wheels. Having said that, there are not that many level wheels around. Yes it is true that there are not that many wheels with 1 dominant drop around either. But the same goes for there are just as few wheels hitting all vertical diamonds equally over however big a sample you would study.

2) we need a dominant drop. Ths is true for vb players. (Forget about level wheels) We need a wheel that produces dominant drops.
  What is a dominant drop exactly? Usually caused by slight tilt on the wheel or a defective warped track. That is where the ball leaves the track and enters the rotor. Because of the vertical deflectors (4 off on most wheels) a combination of where the ball leaves the rim and then starts finding it’s way to the rotor and mostly hitting one of those deflectors in it’s path. The track is always at the same angle. The ball looses against gravity at the same velocity every spin.
If we have a dominant drop or a point where the ball leaves the rim every spin then we have the following constants. (i) The ball leaves the track at the same place. (ii) the ball leaves the rim at the same speed (looses against gravity) (iii) the angle of the track is a constant. If you have this the same deflector will most probably hit 7/10 times.

3) Wheel speed - Ok, this is the first calculation we need to look at. Why? Well, simple. We know where the ball will drop onto the rotor (dminant drop). What we now have to know is what numbers on the ring will be under that point when it happens. So first step would be to time the rotor. (I’m sorry but I’m not going in detail here)

4) Ball speed - After the wheel has been taken care of we look at ball speed. We wait for a specific point in time (same point in every spin) where we would immediately look at our dominant drop (deflector) and what numbers are under the deflector at that time.
So the “point in time” is a constant in every spin. The reference deflector is a constant obviously. Now we just need to adjust for different wheel speeds. (point 3)

5) Scatter analysis - I’m not going to explain how this is done properly. In short though, we track and look at the different scatter patterns. So if we take the dominant deflector and everytime the ball hits that deflector we look at the number under that deflector and then where it ends up. That is our scatter. So let’s say 10 spins clockwise we have the following scatter. 3..3..11..7…18….4…5…..15…..3…...12 Would you add all up and devide by 10? No… you won’t because you will get 8.1 which is 8 pocket scatter. And that is wrong. Look at 3.4.5 pockets scatter. 3 pockets featured 3 times. 4 once and 5 once. So what I"m saying is you should plot this on a graph and look at the high peaks on the graph. Now imagine playing a 2 or 3 pin game and looking at scatter at all the deflectors.

There are several visual ballistics techniques.

Lawrence Scott’s crossover patterns works well but are for faster rotors. Slower rotors won’t allow the 2x pattern to form before nmb or at all for that matter. There are trifactor reference point crossovers that can be used. There is my own ball to wheel relation method I sometimes use. There are other methods as well.

So in short that is what vb is.

It is the only way to get an advantage over the house. (except off course for Bias wheels)

It goes like this…

I bet 30 on 1-18 and bet 20 on the third 12, this way always getting a 10$ profit unless 19,20,21,22,23,24 or 0 comes

Any comments would be nice

Thanks