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The Ching-A-Ling Strategy
Posted: 11 June 2013 11:52 AM   [ Ignore ]
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This is a strategy which I have come up with, I have
  tested it with multiple random number generators
  and have been using it in live play. So far it has
  it been producing very good results in live play.
  Presently there are a few members of this forum
  using it and a few personal friends. If you would
  like to get a little more insight into the strategy
  I suggest you read the Red/Black thread here on
  the forum. I have received a few IM’s from members
  asking for more details and can the strategy be
  used with a small bankroll, so I thought I’d try to
  lay out the strategy in a separate thread.

  First let me say this is not the so called “Holy Grail.”
  So if your looking for an easy way to win this
  definitely isn’t it. This is a grind and there’s no
  guarantees you’ll win.

  The strategy is based on streaks of red and black.
  All your bets will be determined by the color of the
  prior spin. The theory behind the strategy is that
  the law of appearance states all series of even money
  chances will account for 3/4 of all trials and single
  even money chance only account for 1/4 of those
  trails. A series is 2 or more of the same (RR, BB, RRR,
  BBB, RRRR, BBBB, .....) If you were to run a RNG
  test of 100,000 spins, 75,000 of those spins would
  approximately account for series of 2 or more and the
  remaining 25,000 spins would account for single events.
  I know it may sound crazy, but it is true! The Laws
  of Distribution and Appearance can easily be verified.
  Yes there will always be deviations but if you ran
  many test you’ll see the ratio always comes near that
  3/4 series to 1/4 single events. The theory of this strategy
  is to try to capitalize on those series of red and black.

  The strategy has 4 levels of play, with each level giving
    you 6 betting steps. The odds of losing 6 of these betting
    steps is approximately 1 in 64. Thus for the strategy to
    totally collapse the odds are approximately (1 in 64) (1 in 64)
    (1 in 64) (1 in 64). In my RNG testing I did suffer a few
    total losts of all 4 levels. The thing is I was way
    ahead at the time and was able to handle the losts, and
    each time I was able to recover my losts and reach new
    highs before the next lost. In my limited live play of the
    strategy I haven’t yet suffered a lost of all 4 levels. I’m
    up a little over $6,000 in live play and a lost is definitely
    due. The strategy requires a sizable bankroll of 173 units,
    if you use $10 units that amounts to $1,730 investment.
   
    I have scaled the bankroll down for one of the members
    here on the forum and as of today he’s doing well and
    up about $1,000 but only plays for a 5% profit goal per
    session. I also have a personal friend who plays this
    strategy with $50 units and HAS had one lost so far,
    but even after that lost he is still showing a profit of
    over $15,000.

    Remember this strategy is based on a “hit and run” game.
    I personally only play for 4 to 5 units profit per table. I
    average any where between 4 to 40 spins per session.
    Must of the time I reach my goal of 4 to 5 units per table in
    under 20 spins and then move to another table.

    Here are the bets for the strategy:
        (Level 1 - $10-$16-$22-$28-$34-$40 = $150 (Up $6 on a lost, down $4 on win.)
        (Level 2 - $15-$24-$33-$42-$51-$60 = $225 (Up $9 on a lost, down $6 on win.)
        (Level 3 - $30-$48-$66-$84-$102-$120 = $450 ( Up $18 on a lost, down $12 on win.)
        (Level 4 - $60-$96-$132-$168-$204-$240 = $900 ( Up $36 on a lost, down $24 on win.) 
      Any two consecutive wins decrease to whatever level value of the that level, (if Level 3
      and win two bets in a row instead of going down $18 you decrease by $30),
      but never lower than the starting level amount.

      Sorry, I have to run, have to be on job sight early to met architect. I know their
      will be questions and will definitely try to answer as soon as possible.
      I have made some tweeks to the strategy since playing live play and will
      pass them along later. I’ve tested hundreds of systems throughout the years
      and even though this may fail in the so called Long Run, I’m having fun with
      it and so far I’m well ahead! This is a grind and not for everyone.
                  Thanks to all those who have shown a interest!  Louie

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Posted: 11 June 2013 03:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Hi

This looks great.

Can you apply a betting strategy using £1 bets of £173 (only have a small bank)

Can you also please provide an example I am not good with numbers

Thanks

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Posted: 12 June 2013 10:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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sporting1 - 11 June 2013 03:50 PM

Hi

This looks great.

Can you apply a betting strategy using £1 bets of £173 (only have a small bank)

Can you also please provide an example I am not good with numbers

Thanks

  Hi Sporting1,
    Thanks for showing an interest and responding. I understand
  perfectly concerning limited bankroll. I have already put together
  a betting strategy for $5 for another forum member. Due to the
  fact that bankroll is a major part of the strategy I think it’s best
  you only use 3 levels. The member of the forum, Roland, who is
  using my strategy with a $5 base unit also plays with only 3
  levels at this time and is doing fairly good. He’s a very disciplined
  player and has a very modest goal of 5% of his bankroll a day. He’s
  been playing now for a few weeks and has moved his bankroll up
  over a $1,000. He’s now totally happy if he wins $50 to a $100 a day,
  and he’s well aware he can LOSE! So here’s the numbers for a $1 table.

            Level #1 -  $1, $1.50, $2, $2.50, $3, & $3.50 = Total $13.50
            When you lose a bet you move up .50 cents and when
            you win decrease by .25 cents. Here’s an example:

            RED, BLACK, BLACK, RED,

              You walk up to a table and the last color was RED.
             
              1. Your frist bet is $1 on RED, RED comes out you win $1.
              2.  Your next bet is on RED again, BLACK comes out, you lose $1.
              3.  Your next bet increases to $1.50 and your now betting on BLACK.
                  BLACK comes out you win $1.50 Remember any win decrease by .25 cents.
              4.  You bet on BLACK again for $1.25, RED come out you lose. Your
                    up only .25 cents.

                Just remember lose a bet increase .50 cents, win a bet decrease .25 cents.

              LEVEL #2 - $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, & $7 = Total $27.00

                Same rule as level 1, but double!  Lose increase $1, win decrease .50 cents.


                LEVEL #3 - $4, $6, $8, $10, $12, & $14 = $54.00

                Same rule as level 2, but double.  Lose increase $2, win decrease $1.


    Sporting 1, This is the best I can figure out for a $1 unit base, the bankroll required is $94.50!
    This strategy gives you 18 bets, I would suggest a session goal of $5, then try another table.
      Because it’s a limited bankroll I might try to win $20 to $25 a day! To be honest I don’t know
      how this will go with $1 units, but if you do try it please keep me updated with the results.

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Posted: 12 June 2013 01:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Hello Chingy 711. Been following along and this looks interesting.

All the best.

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Posted: 12 June 2013 01:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Thank you Chingy

I will give this a try a let u know how I get on

Many Thanks

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Posted: 13 June 2013 03:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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roulettelover75 - 12 June 2013 01:28 PM

Hello Chingy 711. Been following along and this looks interesting.
Thanks for including a low stake version.
I will give it a try in the Casino near where I live and let you know how I get on.

All the best.

Good Luck, Roulettelover75!!! I’m really glad to hear so
many like yourself have been following my post in the
Red/Black thread and have found it interesting. I’ve
got a few nice IM’s in the last few days and to all those
that do try the strategy, please let me know by posting,
I know many don’t post but just say hello and share
any results. I enjoy the IM’s, but you’d be surprised
there’s others that are following along and a short
post would be appreciated!  Thanks everyone and good
luck!!!!!! Ching - A - Ling, may the cash register open for all!

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Posted: 14 June 2013 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Hi everyone,

Just thought I’d add to the debate.

I can confirm that this strategy is working for me!

Louie kindly created a betting system using £300 as the bankroll for my more limited funds.  This consists of 5 bets on each level.  It is as follows:


Level 1 - $5-$8-$11-$14-$17 = $55
Level 2   $8-$12-$16-$20-$24 = $80
Level 3   $15-$24-$33-$42-$51= $165
——————————————————————-
              Total = $300

I play on the William Hill website as there are live tables (6 in total).  You can see all the past results (I think there are around 50 previous spins showing).  Like Louie I generally pick the table that has shown some ‘zig-zagging’ in the last few spins as I’ve found that usually the zig-zags end abruptly and a series on one colour start.

I have a goal of 5 units per session so £25.  A few times I’ve actually won in 5-7 spins where luckily I jump straight into a streak of one colour.  Sometimes it takes longer but what I’ve noticed is that your bankroll gradually increases the longer the session goes on.  Example - for every time you go up a bet and win and then go down to the previous bet (e.g. you win at £14 and go down to £11) you have picked up £3 (the difference between the bet sizes).  I can reach my target sometimes when I’m well into the progression as I’ve been winning and losing bets but for every win compared to a loss you’re up £3!


I also increased the number of bets to 6 to give me a bit more security and a 64/1 chance of losing the level (compared to 32/1 for 5 bets).  So the bankroll is now:

Level 1 - $5-$8-$11-$14-$17-$20 = $75
Level 2   $8-$12-$16-$20-$24-$28 = $108
Level 3   $15-$24-$33-$42-$51-$60= $225

—————————————————————————————
            Total = $408.

So the bankroll for the system has now increased to £408 from £300 but it has given you a bit more chance if the progression starts hitting red/black/red/black.

 

A member called Carlos also asked me and Louie about the system and he created a progression with a low bankroll but he has 8 bets in each progression:

Level 1- $1 $3 $5 $7 $9 $11 $13 $15 = $64     (win= -$1; 2 consecutive wins or more= -$3)
Level 2- $1 $4 $7 $10 $13 $16 $19 $22 = $92   (win= -$2; 2 consecutive wins or more= -$4)
Level 3- $5 $8 $11 $14 $17 $20 $23 $26 = $124   (win= -$2; 2 consecutive wins or more= -$5)

I’m not sure if you should have 8 bets per level or if it would be better to have 6 bets but maybe add a 4th level to the system?

 

 

The good thing is with this system is that you know at the start what you have at stake.  As long as you are disciplined and know that at some time, YOU WILL LOSE, then the loss shouldn’t be too bad.

As long as you don’t add another level after losing the 3/4 levels that you’ve planned out, which is unsuitable for your bankroll, then there is always another day to win the money back!

I know that if I do lose the 3 levels I lose £300 - no more.  I can live with that.  The reason is I’ve won nearly 3 times that amount already using this system so I would still be nearly £600 in profit.  I can’t imagine that I will lose 3 times in a row but I suppose it is possible.  The good thing is that you get 3 chances at 3 separate tables and as we know that series of colours comprise 3/4 of all spins and the remaining single colours make up only a quarter then the odds are on our side!

Good luck everyone!

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Posted: 14 June 2013 12:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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RolandDeschain - 14 June 2013 11:57 AM

Hi everyone,

Just thought I’d add to the debate.

I can confirm that this strategy is working for me!

Louie kindly created a betting system using £300 as the bankroll for my more limited funds.  This consists of 5 bets on each level.  It is as follows:


Level 1 - $5-$8-$11-$14-$17 = $55
Level 2   $8-$12-$16-$20-$24 = $80
Level 3   $15-$24-$33-$42-$51= $165
——————————————————————-
              Total = $300

I play on the William Hill website as there are live tables (6 in total).  You can see all the past results (I think there are around 50 previous spins showing).  Like Louie I generally pick the table that has shown some ‘zig-zagging’ in the last few spins as I’ve found that usually the zig-zags end abruptly and a series on one colour start.

I have a goal of 5 units per session so £25.  A few times I’ve actually won in 5-7 spins where luckily I jump straight into a streak of one colour.  Sometimes it takes longer but what I’ve noticed is that your bankroll gradually increases the longer the session goes on.  Example - for every time you go up a bet and win and then go down to the previous bet (e.g. you win at £14 and go down to £11) you have picked up £3 (the difference between the bet sizes).  I can reach my target sometimes when I’m well into the progression as I’ve been winning and losing bets but for every win compared to a loss you’re up £3!


I also increased the number of bets to 6 to give me a bit more security and a 64/1 chance of losing the level (compared to 32/1 for 5 bets).  So the bankroll is now:

Level 1 - $5-$8-$11-$14-$17-$20 = $75
Level 2   $8-$12-$16-$20-$24-$28 = $108
Level 3   $15-$24-$33-$42-$51-$60= $225

—————————————————————————————
            Total = $408.

So the bankroll for the system has now increased to £408 from £300 but it has given you a bit more chance if the progression starts hitting red/black/red/black.

 

A member called Carlos also asked me and Louie about the system and he created a progression with a low bankroll but he has 8 bets in each progression:

Level 1- $1 $3 $5 $7 $9 $11 $13 $15 = $64     (win= -$1; 2 consecutive wins or more= -$3)
Level 2- $1 $4 $7 $10 $13 $16 $19 $22 = $92   (win= -$2; 2 consecutive wins or more= -$4)
Level 3- $5 $8 $11 $14 $17 $20 $23 $26 = $124   (win= -$2; 2 consecutive wins or more= -$5)

I’m not sure if you should have 8 bets per level or if it would be better to have 6 bets but maybe add a 4th level to the system?

 

 

The good thing is with this system is that you know at the start what you have at stake.  As long as you are disciplined and know that at some time, YOU WILL LOSE, then the loss shouldn’t be too bad.

As long as you don’t add another level after losing the 3/4 levels that you’ve planned out, which is unsuitable for your bankroll, then there is always another day to win the money back!

I know that if I do lose the 3 levels I lose £300 - no more.  I can live with that.  The reason is I’ve won nearly 3 times that amount already using this system so I would still be nearly £600 in profit.  I can’t imagine that I will lose 3 times in a row but I suppose it is possible.  The good thing is that you get 3 chances at 3 separate tables and as we know that series of colours comprise 3/4 of all spins and the remaining single colours make up only a quarter then the odds are on our side!

Good luck everyone!

  Thanks Roland,
    What can I say? Great post!!!! Your results may encourage
  others to at least take a second look at the strategy and
  maybe even do some testing of it! Long before I ever came
  up with this strategy I’ve always said the key to winning is
  taking advantage of streaks. What make Roland a positive
  player is he’s not under the delusion that he can’t LOSE. He
  understands the risk and most importantly he’s happy with
  a modest win goal per session. Some may say, $25 to $50 isn’t
  much, well those little wins add up fairly quickly with a average
  good run. He’s now at the point with his modest wins that even
  when that LOST does happen, he will still show a nice profit
  for his investment. He hasn’t allowed the Human Factors to get
  in the way of giving him the “CHANCE” to win. I tell Roland all
  the time, ” If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.”

  This is a shout out to Carlos, do you think I didn’t test 8 steps
  per level, or 10 steps per level in my progressions testing.
  There’s a reason why I’ve limited my progressions to 5 to 6
  steps. It’s the total amount invested in Level 1, which is limited
  to 15 units. Levels 2, 3, & 4 are recovery stages, my testing shows
  a Level 1 lost is much easier to recover those 15 unit lost. The goal
  is to stay in level 1 as long as possible, without spending hours
  trying to recover a lost in level 1. The progression of this strategy
  makes it realistic to recover fairly quickly, that’s important and
  vital to the strength of the strategy. I have tested 15 steps in my
  testing with some success but when it lost the recovery was an
  brutal nightmare and seriously flawed. This strategy is a balance
  of reward with recovery vs risk of ruin!

  Roland keep up the great work and I hope luck holds out and that
  LOST that we know is coming, arrives much later than expected.
  Thanks so much for your positive post, the law of distribution of
  series is a powerful weapon to which I’ve rarely ever seen used
  in other so called “systems.” This strategy has a logical foundation
  based on a truly positive expectation and that is “SERIES ACCOUNT
  FOR 3/4 OF ALL TRIALS”  Good Luck To Everyone, LOUIE

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Posted: 14 June 2013 02:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Hi Louie and everyone.

Just posting an example of the system.

I just played a session - lasted about 11 minutes!

Won £29.  The base bet was £5 and there was a streak of blacks at the start (4) and then red/black/red so my bet increased to £14 I then won that bet then lost the next at £11. Then at the £14 there were 3 blacks in a row so in total there were 11 spins in total with 5 different changes of colour (there were 2 single colours out of the 11 spins).

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Posted: 14 June 2013 02:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Just a quick thought.

If you DID have the bankroll required then at the £50 base unit you would have made £290.  In 11 minutes.

Not bad really.  Like I’ve been told though it is imperative that you don’t run before you can walk.

Keep to a reasonable bankroll.  For example, say if you are going to a casino and have £1000 to play with I would say that the 3/4 levels should comprise no more then half your bankroll. So £500 in total.  This way if you DO lose all 3 levels you still have another £500 left to either play the strategy again or leave it for another day.

Just make sure that when a loss comes, and hopefully it won’t be for a long time, the loss is kept to a certain level that you can live with. This is why this system can be so effective. The losses can be kept to a minimum and it won’t destroy your bankroll and totally erode all the winnings up to that point.  Then you can look back and say, well I lost today and I’m £300/£500/£1700 down but I’ve already won 3,4,5 times this amount using this system so I’m still up overall!

Youve just got to stay positive as a series of red/blacks on 3/4 separate tables will come up eventually.  The probability of this happening though is small compared to the times when you can pick up those easy winning sessions.

The good thing is this is not a Martingale system where one bad night can ruin everything and you’re back at square one!

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Posted: 15 June 2013 01:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Hi Guys,

I sit possible to have this Coded in a BOT with different levels and bankrolls?

I would pay if someone can help with coding this.

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Posted: 16 June 2013 02:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Sporting1 - I’m not sure about bots or anything like that sorry.  Never used them myself.  Maybe another member with more technical knowledge may be able to help.

Just had another session - lasted longer - it was a nightmare at the beginning - won the first bet then lost the next 5 in a row (red/black/green/red/black!) , then won one and lost one so was at the last bet of £20 on the first level then had a good run of streaks so won the session with £27 (£25 is the target per session).  So even when a session looks like its going to lose quick, it can change all at once!

Still not been out of the 1st level in nearly 20 sessions now so all good!

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Posted: 16 June 2013 05:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Hi sporting1 i also had a look at this thinking it would work well in a bot..although im not clued up enough to write a bot but i think it wouldn’t be to hard using Blue eye macro
i know there is 1 or 2 people on this forum that know how to work Blue eye macro a lot better than me so i will ask around.
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Posted: 18 June 2013 05:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Hello . . .

Just saw a few replies about getting a bot for this system.

I already have this system coded in Excel which powers our inexpensive ExcelBot.

If any of you wish more information on our ExcelBot simply email me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

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Posted: 18 June 2013 11:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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For all those following this thread. I received an IM and
  I want to clear something up. It appears some believe
  that my random generator testing resulted in a positive
  of almost $300,000! Stop there!

  I started my testing using a $10 base unit and only after
  my bankroll increased many times did I “INCREASE” by
  betting to a higher level of $20 units. This progression
  continued to the $30, $40 & finally the $50. These
  progressions were only done “WHEN” the bankroll had
  grown many times before moving to each level.

  Naturally at the $50 unit level, the wins are much larger
  in amount and the bankroll increased at a pace of 5 times
  a $10 base unit!!!

  I just wanted to clear that up, with a $10 unit base to
  reach a $300,000 bankroll would take a few years in a
  casino playing everyday because of the limited amount
  of spins produced in an hour. On a busy day your lucky
  to get 25 to 30 spins an hour. Online play is a different
  thing, you can get anywhere from 60 to 100 spins an hour!

  As for developing a bot for my strategy is questionable.
  How would one simulate moving from table to table after
  4 to 5 unit wins. They would have to probably re-seed the
  random number generator after each goal is met to simulate
  a new table. But I would really like to see the results of
  continuious play just to see the numbers. I would to see
  a program that could possible use a trigger to start the
  betting, like seeing a zig-zag pattern of say R.B, R, beofre
  starting the betting. It would really be interesting, and I’m
  fairly sure a smart programer could do it. I don’t believe the
  latest post that some guy already as the program for this
  strategy, so “BUYER BEWARE.” I just think this guy is some
  kind of scammer, be careful, my strategy is free and I don’t
  want some asshole taking advantage of anyone because of
  my strategy. You can check the internet and you wouldn’t
  find anyone else with the exact strategy as mine or with
  the theory of the laws of distribution and appearance for
  it’s logic!!!!! Now suddenly out of nowhere this guy has
  already programed the exact strategy and for a FEW BUCKS
  he’ll sell it to you!!!! If someone says he can write the
  program that’s a different story!!!! It might be worth it than!

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Posted: 18 June 2013 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Sorry you feel that I may be a scammer.  Other members asked about a bot and I simply replied that I have one.

Kindly “Google” ExcelBot and you will see that “Nick and Stef” developed this one of a kind bot.

Kindly visit our sister forum BetSelection.cc where we are moderators for Excel and the Excelbot.

I have tried to attach an Excel Tracker for your system which only needs to be added to a bot, however, this forum won’t allow the format.  Kindly email me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and I can send it to any of those who want it.

I can easily add any other Triggers you feel might improve this system.

We can reseed the RNG with Bet Voyager anytime or you can use another Casino to simulate your “hit and run” strategy.

We can do just about anything you need.

Enjoy . . .

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