My hat goes off to you being that skilled with numbers. I think you should post even more threads concerning numbers. Most people choose to play random numbers, even the numbers that show up. Two guys playing at Ameristsar casino last night as I watched. They stayed with the twenties when the prier spin hit a twenty, and so forth. Did great at first, then wiped them both out a few spends later. Every bet they made was 10,11,12 chips on each number at a time and a few other numbers including 0 and 00( they kinda reminded me of how you said you sometimes play) Of course they bought in again, a few hundred a piece. Well, what do you no, another wipe out. I am sure they did not play as you would have played…........................................
DSLEEP, 27, Vicksburg, MS

AJIKA, yes, it is reachable.  One thing that helps me is a lot of home work. Don’t want to do it, but if I don’t then how can I pass the exam?.  “seek, and you shall find”....................................

VB Meister - 27 May 2010 06:09 AM

I make between 30-40 thou a month.

I play 5 days a week 4-7 hours a day. I play at several casinos. I travel quite a bit. I have friends in other cities who contact me if a wheel fits my criteria.

Wow! OMG! You sound quite like one of my friends, but he is working in sport betting, soccer actually, and he also talks about ‘‘criteria’‘, if a match does not fit in certain ones, he just leaves it. Is it too bold from my side to ask which are YOUR criteria?

Ntlie - 15 August 2010 05:10 PM

VB Meister - 27 May 2010 06:09 AM

I make between 30-40 thou a month.

I play 5 days a week 4-7 hours a day. I play at several casinos. I travel quite a bit. I have friends in other cities who contact me if a wheel fits my criteria.

Wow! OMG! You sound quite like one of my friends, but he is working in sport betting, soccer actually, and he also talks about ‘‘criteria’‘, if a match does not fit in certain ones, he just leaves it. Is it too bold from my side to ask which are YOUR criteria?

You can understand if I tell you that I do not want to let the cat out of the bag so to speak. Afterall my methods are pretty advanced and developed by myself over the years. Make no mistake though. They were developed from your standard vb literature. So my methods are personal. Anyone could get to where I am though with determination and practise You might even develop better methods.

My criteria is as follows. I look for a tilted wheel (that could be 1 pin, 2 pin or 3 pin.) I then look at scatter and draw up a scatter chart. Although a 1 pin is usually advantageous I might rather go for a 2-pin if the scatter is more managable. I look at the type of wheel, the frets on that wheel, the type and size of ball being used etc. Look at the dealers and rotor speed. Things like that. It took me a couple of months to find the wheels I’m playing now. That may change overnight though. Then I will just go looking again until I find what I need. That is being a pro. With that I mean I might not play for 3 months while looking for the proper wheel. Once I think I have it, then scatter tracking etc. will take more time. Once I have my wheel though, PROFIT! Don’t for one second believe that there are no more tilted wheels around. Some are just not as obvious as others.

You can understand if I tell you that I do not want to let the cat out of the bag so to speak. Afterall my methods are pretty advanced and developed by myself over the years. Make no mistake though. They were developed from your standard vb literature. So my methods are personal. Anyone could get to where I am though with determination and practise You might even develop better methods.

My criteria is as follows. I look for a tilted wheel (that could be 1 pin, 2 pin or 3 pin.) I then look at scatter and draw up a scatter chart. Although a 1 pin is usually advantageous I might rather go for a 2-pin if the scatter is more managable. I look at the type of wheel, the frets on that wheel, the type and size of ball being used etc. Look at the dealers and rotor speed. Things like that. It took me a couple of months to find the wheels I’m playing now. That may change overnight though. Then I will just go looking again until I find what I need. That is being a pro. With that I mean I might not play for 3 months while looking for the proper wheel. Once I think I have it, then scatter tracking etc. will take more time. Once I have my wheel though, PROFIT! Don’t for one second believe that there are no more tilted wheels around. Some are just not as obvious as others.

It’s just fantastic, so simple and so effective! Thanks for the hint!

Are you guys making the money on 50/50 betting techniques, spread betting or wheel pointing.

Or a combination of both.

I was making $50.00 a day on red black retractions, it was a slow grind but on $0.50 bets.

It’s all about your own method, the numbers mean nothing, if you can win with something small, you can win with something big, this is the dream of a true roulette money making demon.

You are exactly right. The one thing you should
have mentioned though is the ball point. That is the point where you
have to throw down $500 or $1,000 instead of $100 and get those
colored chips. Betting with $5 or $10 chips takes balls and that is
how you really become a pro player. You have to bet big to win BIG.
All here that talk about $50 or $200 a day winnings are betting small
because it only takes small balls. If they played with larger chips
their profits would be 10 times. To bet with large chips on the inside
takes big balls and if you are as pro, as you proclaim, your winnings
will prove it. If you believe in your method of play, there is no
reason not to. If you play on the outside you will need even
bigger balls because you cant afford to loose any spin. You will
get in trouble quicker on the outside. There is one here that
proclaims a $67,000 a year income from roulette. This if true,
tells you that this person is playing successfully. One problem,
if you play that successfully why are you only making $67,000.
This person is obviously playing with little balls. BIG BALLS would
put this person over $500,000 easily.

The ball factor keeps the majority of people at that casual player level
even though they believe they are a pro. They truly would be a pro
if not for the ball factor. This is a topic that you don’t read or hear
about on the forums anywhere. This subject no matter how you play
is very touchy and I’m sure I will hear from some here that will
defend their so called pro status. There is only one here that I have read
from that I would consider truly a pro. This ball subject needs to be
discussed in more depth. It is a big step to take and all should know
all they can before pulling that trigger.

There is nothing wrong with being a casual player. This is a good way
to pay for your vacation or other expenses that don’t go over maybe
$2,000. The people that win fairly consistently at small stakes and
refer to themselves as pro players should start seeing the big picture.

$67,000 is more than enough for me KLUGMO. I stick to my goals no matter what a person may say. I see you constantly pick on me for what ever its worth to you. I respect your opinion as I always have old man. You make your methods sound as if their the best to use in the world since you say you make $30,000/$40,000 every month. Not even scammers promise these large amounts in their commercials. Most here know you are a fraud living a borning suicidal life with nothing and no one in your favor. A longly old man making this much money and logs online at rouletteforum.com to pick on people and criticize why they don’t make as much money as him sounds like a coward by my tally.KLUGMO, you are the biggest scammer of them all. Old men like you with big balls have no brains.  If one is greedy, bet big. If not greedy, make a living. Smart balls would be more appropriate Mr. KLUGMO. “One day I hope KLUGMO will be a professional, it just ant today” DSLEEP, 27

Your comprehension skills have a long way to go.
You are correct. $67,000 is enough for YOU. Possibly too much.
I have never made any claim as to how much I make. I have
stated my methods and discussed others and why I felt
they were inferior as you do to. I have not promised large amounts
if they play my way. I simply support my techniques as you do yours.
I am neither cowardly,boring nor suicidal and in fact I am quite a nice and
generous person. I believe the fact that I speak my mind and happen to disagree
with just some of what you claim bothers you and that really says more about
you than me. AGAIN as I said before there is nothing wrong with being a casual
player.

By the way, all I have said concerning betting big is absolutely true.
Common sense tells you that. Something else, the one thing you did comprehend
from my writing was that I don’t consider you the one pro here that I referred to.
There is nothing wrong with that. It’s just the ball factor.

PS. Use the spell checker once in awhile.
    It will make you less revealing.

I do apoligse KLUGMO, vb meister is the one who said he makes $30,000 to $40,000 a month.  Listen KLUGMO, I like you reguardless of what we disagree about.  Sometimes I take things the wrong way, as I am only human.  I respect all of your words because of who I am, a person trying to learn every inch of knowlege about Roulette from people like you with 35 years of experience.  The one key I take advantage of is not to bet every spin.  My goal is to win at least 1 of 7 spins, then I wait 7 more spins, and play 7 spins after that until I win at least 1 spin. Most of the time I pick red or black depending on what the 7 spins revial that I dont bet on.  There are certian patterns I will never pick to start the betting process.  what ever color I choose I also bet on all numbers of that color including 0 and 00, no matter what. By these such methods, I simply make a living and never is it easy. many patterns repeat back to back, but some will not repeat back to back and I am sure u are aware of this. $200 a day is not a lot of money, but the reason I choose to stop there is for saftey.  I always tell my self to keep going but I must remain discipline and stick to what works for me.  Iam sure when ever I get my experience level up more(10 years or better) I will shoot more shots.  I can only get better.  I have faith in all areas of my life KLUGMO, I believe I can only fail if I choose too.  To me, nothing is impossible.  When someone tells me something wont happen or a thing is broke and no one in the world can fix it, I have to be the one that can.  “I will…...because I can…..”.  I am that young mind that has not seen what you’ve seen, a mind like yours which is driven, a mind that can do anything it can concieve.  If one can defy chance at least one of seven spins , that is enough for short-term methods to have long-term success.  In my case this is true.  I would love to hear more advice from you and how you manage success at Roulette today.    God bless you

P.S   I didn’t use spell check on this one, my spelling is horrible

Betting Every Spin

It is my opinion that I came to play not watch.
Some wait 3, 5, 9 or more spins before they put a bet on the table.
This seems rather unproductive to me. I know they are waiting for
the opportune time to place their bet, but I think what they
believe is the opportune time is based on past results and
the risk is the same betting every spin.

Me, I prefer a rhythm and getting a feel for the dealer, the
other players at the table and the results on the board.
I am very mobile when I play so those things matter to me.
Logically it seems that if you spend 6 hours at a casino and
you only had chips on the table for one of those hours
then you only have 1 6th of the experience you think you have.

I know in America if you are sitting at a table you must bet
every spin and bet at least the minimum. Nothing annoys me
more than an arm shooting between me and someone sitting
beside me to place an outside bet at the last second. I have
grabbed arms before thinking I was being pick-pocketed.
Anyone who does that, I will let them know I don’t like it.
If they give me shit I ask the Pit Boss to handle it or I will leave.
This one activity can throw me off my game it upsets me.
I know better and I should have more control but that is my button.

JMHO

In Mississippi, you can wait as long as you want to wait. Here , I do not have to bet at any Roulette table until I choose too. Weather I roll with my prediction or go against it, all is still the same. I guess I am just now thinking about everything the creators of Roulette already though of, Nothing in the world works long-term concerning Roulette???. I will NEVER stand for this, there is a way!??!

If another life form came from outer space and gave us this option; If mankind can beat Roulette at will, one billion spins in a row with a $15,000 bank roll, then they will leave us in peace. If we fail, they will destroy us all. Would the greatest minds in the world prevail, or fail!????????????? Great minds got man to the moon, played golf on the surface, and returned to Earth safely even through all the chance they overcame. These same American minds can not defeat A man made game ????????! I believe if we pushed hard enough we would find the best long-term solution possible, We have simply chosen not to push hard enough because most if not all of us are some how content. “I will find away, ..I will…..because I can….”
                                  DSLEEP, 28, Vicksburg, MS