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Posted: 14 July 2013 06:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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dobbelsteen - 14 July 2013 06:00 AM

I believe,you can beat the roulette by a strategy. In my opinion,there is noway to calculate where the ball will land.
There is no different between a random row of a real wheel or a RNG. On VLS you can buy a computerprogram to predict the next spin.
I think ,it is wast money.
I have also a new theory.It is hardly to explain a complext strategy on the forum. I have demonstate my manner of gaming the roulette on internet.All over the world roulettegamers have vieuwed it. I never lost a demonstration. For every game,  there is a strategy .Everybody can learn a strategy. Succes depends also of the skill.

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Posted: 15 July 2013 06:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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VB Meister. In dutch your name means Master.Can I suppose you are a welkown rouletteplayer.I didnot find any roulette theory from you on the form.
Most replies are negative and you are not respectful to other members.
I think you are a disappointed loser.

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Posted: 15 July 2013 02:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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dobbelsteen - 15 July 2013 06:30 AM

VB Meister. In dutch your name means Master.Can I suppose you are a welkown rouletteplayer.I didnot find any roulette theory from you on the form.
Most replies are negative and you are not respectful to other members.
I think you are a disappointed loser.

Hahahahaha. whatever makes you sleep at night. Now. If you really searched my older posts you would know pretty much what we do .... seems you did not look very hard.

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Posted: 15 July 2013 08:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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studying wheel bias is nothing new. Calculating where the ball will land is actually pretty easy. You study the wheel and ball speeds to determine drop point and scatter. Basically you are measuring the deceleration rate of the ball using a dominant deflector. The scatter is determined by wheel speed and ball size, this is measured before hand and the most ideal wheel speed is chosen…or atleast thats what I do. I can determine ball drop withing 3 rotations of the ball under ideal conditions…and I only play under ideal conditions. This means a certain ball size and only a paticular wheel speed. Been doing this for years, successfully.——Brian

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Posted: 16 July 2013 04:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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You can divide roulette gamers in two categories.
The gambler plays random without sense.
The player use different manners to try to beat the edge.
1. Predicting the landing of the ball.
2. Dealer signature.
3. Develop and using systems.
4. Develop betting systems.
5. Develop and using strategies,
Every method has his own fans. I have studied random rows for more than 25 years. Nowadays I program my studies in excel. I am interested particular in the phenomena of small samples. Small samples are not random in spite they are created by a Random Generator. I simulate the theory with excel and the results I use in the casino. My theory is not secret and it gives me pleasure to share my knowledge with other interested roulette players.
Mr Meister does not worry my night rest. I live in Europe

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Posted: 16 July 2013 10:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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dobbelsteen - 16 July 2013 04:33 AM

You can divide roulette gamers in two categories.
The gambler plays random without sense.
The player use different manners to try to beat the edge.
1. Predicting the landing of the ball.
2. Dealer signature.
3. Develop and using systems.
4. Develop betting systems.
5. Develop and using strategies,
Every method has his own fans. I have studied random rows for more than 25 years. Nowadays I program my studies in excel. I am interested particular in the phenomena of small samples. Small samples are not random in spite they are created by a Random Generator. I simulate the theory with excel and the results I use in the casino. My theory is not secret and it gives me pleasure to share my knowledge with other interested roulette players.
Mr Meister does not worry my night rest. I live in Europe

wrong. Betting randomly and playing systems is exactly the same thing. You have the same 37 pockets of freedom and thus the same odds.

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Posted: 16 July 2013 11:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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I have studied random rows for more than 25 years. -Dobbelsteen

Dobbelsteen,

No you haven’t.  When you make absurd comments like that you sound as ridiculous as Scepticus.  Again, it’s obvious to people like VB, Pertinax, and myself that you’ve just gotten into the game within the past couple of years, otherwise you wouldn’t still be toying around with such silly systems, while trying to beat the random game.  After a few years, most people develop some common sense when it comes to probability.

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Posted: 16 July 2013 01:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Dear Sirs, to end your doubts, I did a demonstration to a member of this forum the Lord Chrisbis.
It was the only one who never attacked me and wanted to see a lot of education and then judge. Ask him about the demonstration I did. Thank you all.

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Posted: 16 July 2013 02:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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To all who read this post.

With reference to the new member zorrobanban, I can confirm that I have been taken through a method
whereby the member, (zorrobanban), can very accurately predict future RNG spin numbers, based on a short history,
spin by spin Marquee.

I will point out, that the test was on a Fun Account, at a well known British On-Line casino,
and employed RNG Roulette, for the session game. I used a European Roulette(with Zero)

The spin numbers are available, if anyone requires them.

After 31 free spin numbers, I was advised which Single number to bet on, and the amount (Low stake value).
There after, the stakes were low, and the number of inside numbers bet on, was slightly increased, until I was betting on a
maximum of 8 numbers
4,5,14,15,29,31,33,36

During the small session (approx 50 numbers), there were several wins, and the final BR balance
was at +443
Max bet was £30, and max bet on any one number was £6
Start bet was £1

Quite an amazing performance.
We shared a Skype screen, but only so I could see zorrobanban, and hear him call the bets.
He is from USA…..
How he did it I do not at this time know.
I am hoping that I can further my knowledge, and have a REAL MONEY account test, with
zorrobanban, very soon.
Though for now, he has done “Exactly what it said on the tin”.

Anyone want further info, just ask. cool smile

Those who do not know me…....I have been playing On-line Roulette for approx 3 years, and I am a moderator of another Roulette forum.
Ask anything U like…..............I did!
During the Skype/Game session, we had a very friendly chat, for approx 2 hours.
No money exchanged hands, and I was not asked for any money.

...........and, no, I am not an affiliate salesman for zorrobanban either!! lol

Its for European + Non USA Players, due to the On-Line restrictions faced by USA players.

BTW..I’m not a Lord…......nor pretend to be!
Thank you for reading.

Straight and to the point remarks and questions would be appreciated.
Chris

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Posted: 16 July 2013 02:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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chrisbis - 16 July 2013 02:19 PM

To all who read this post.

With reference to the new member zorrobanban, I can confirm that I have been taken through a method
whereby the member, (zorrobanban), can very accurately predict future RNG spin numbers, based on a short history,
spin by spin Marquee.

I will point out, that the test was on a Fun Account, at a well known British On-Line casino,
and employed RNG Roulette, for the session game. I used a European Roulette(with Zero)

The spin numbers are available, if anyone requires them.

After 31 free spin numbers, I was advised which Single number to bet on, and the amount (Low stake value).
There after, the stakes were low, and the number of inside numbers bet on, was slightly increased, until I was betting on a
maximum of 8 numbers
4,5,14,15,29,31,33,36

During the small session (approx 50 numbers), there were several wins, and the final BR balance
was at +443
Max bet was £30, and max bet on any one number was £6
Start bet was £1

Quite an amazing performance.
We shared a Skype screen, but only so I could see zorrobanban, and hear him call the bets.
He is from USA…..
How he did it I do not at this time know.
I am hoping that I can further my knowledge, and have a REAL MONEY account test, with
zorrobanban, very soon.
Though for now, he has done “Exactly what it said on the tin”.

Anyone want further info, just ask. cool smile

Those who do not know me…....I have been playing On-line Roulette for approx 3 years, and I am a moderator of another Roulette forum.
Ask anything U like…..............I did!
During the Skype/Game session, we had a very friendly chat, for approx 2 hours.
No money exchanged hands, and I was not asked for any money.

...........and, no, I am not an affiliate salesman for zorrobanban either!! lol

Its for European + Non USA Players, due to the On-Line restrictions faced by USA players.

BTW..I’m not a Lord…......nor pretend to be!
Thank you for reading.

Straight and to the point remarks and questions would be appreciated.
Chris

Hi Chrisbis
This seems to be a progression system. Yes ?
It starts with one number .If lost you bet two
numbers ? Are these two bet with a progression ?
And so on until you are betting eight numbers on one spin ?
If that loses then what ?
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Posted: 16 July 2013 03:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Thanks for the reply.

No, it was nothing like that.
I wish I had recorded the whole session now, but I didn’t know what to expect.
Obviously, I/we were recovering some losses, but nothing on a grand scale.
The bets were almost but not quite a Parlay , but not a Marty/Fibo in anyway.

They were more like:-
1 then 1
then:-
1 + 1
1 + 1
1 + 1
1 + 1
then
2 + 2
then 2 + 2 + 2

and so on, final bet will tell U more.
was:-

#  Amount
4 =$3
5 =$4
14 =$6
15 =$6
29 =$6
31 =$1
33 =$3
36 =$1

4 hit first, then 15 then 36 hit !!
I know it says dollars….....I just copied and pasted the last bet,
cause I asked him for text confirm, as I could not hear him,
as my wife was using the hair dyer!! lol
Was most extraordinary!
(not the hair dryer…lol)

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Posted: 16 July 2013 04:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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chrisbis - 16 July 2013 03:04 PM

Thanks for the reply.

No, it was nothing like that.
I wish I had recorded the whole session now, but I didn’t know what to expect.
Obviously, I/we were recovering some losses, but nothing on a grand scale.
The bets were almost but not quite a Parlay , but not a Marty/Fibo in anyway.

They were more like:-
1 then 1
then:-
1 + 1
1 + 1
1 + 1
1 + 1
then
2 + 2
then 2 + 2 + 2

and so on, final bet will tell U more.
was:-

#  Amount
4 =$3
5 =$4
14 =$6
15 =$6
29 =$6
31 =$1
33 =$3
36 =$1

4 hit first, then 15 then 36 hit !!
I know it says dollars….....I just copied and pasted the last bet,
cause I asked him for text confirm, as I could not hear him,
as my wife was using the hair dyer!! lol
Was most extraordinary!
(not the hair dryer…lol)

Thanks Chris
So bet number
1 is £1
2is £1
3is £2
4is £2
5 is £2
6 is £2
bet 7 is £4
bet 8 is£6
so are bets 9,10,11 also £6 ?
4 won then you increased by £1 but when 15 won you kept
the same £6 on next spin.and why reduce from £3 on number 33 to £1 on 36.Seems strange.I would have thought you would go back to either the very beginning or the beginning
of the last upgrade.Mind you, I am more interested in WHY he chooses his numbers.His progressions seem to be just a
variation on a theme.  But What Works, Works !
Thanks

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Posted: 16 July 2013 04:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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It won’t work for the following reasons:

The sum of all of the bets in your progression X the negative 2.7% expectation = Still a long term negative expectation.

You will forever be searching for “just the right” progression to try and make this one work, which is, of course, impossible.  Multiplying a positive number times a negative number still equals a negative number.

If you guys perform just a little bit of arithmetic then you can avoid wasting so much time on some of these foolish systems.

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Posted: 16 July 2013 06:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Houston - 16 July 2013 04:55 PM

It won’t work for the following reasons:

The sum of all of the bets in your progression X the negative 2.7% expectation = Still a long term negative expectation.
s You will forever be searching for “just the right” progression to try and make this one work, which is, of course, impossible.  Multiplying a positive number times a negative number still equals a negative number.
If you guys perform just a little bit of arithmetic then you can avoid wasting so much time on some of these foolish systems.

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Housto, go play with your dick.After all you must be good at something.Your AP method is illogical and your knowledge of maths is elementary so get the hell from this discussion and take your juvenile closed mind and your arrogance and stick them up your butt along with all the other shit you post .And in saying that I’m being polite
only because you are a pathetic excuse for a human being !

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Posted: 16 July 2013 07:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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@scepticus

I respect that your are trying to disseminate these numbers/figures and reverse engineer the progression, and make it fit into a box.
I would to, trying to rationalize it all!

Its nothing like that.
I have just finished real money account trial run.
Here are the numbers, (these are from a fresh game, at ******* Casino (Its a UK named casino)

6 (First number out, via 1 unit on Red + 1 unit on Black)

4

18

19

13

23

21

7

33

19

0

16

31

19

6

33

26

34
These numbers I was sending to our friend, at a rapid rate, and at this point, he directs me to slow down, and I know we are close to
a Betting Point.
Next number:-

26

16

30

33

25

7

25

19

27

0

8

26*  (Bank Roll= 9.70)
    Bet made:- 1 unit placed on #23
              + 1 unit placed on #26
33   (Bank Roll= 9.50)
    Bet made:- 1 unit placed on #23
              + 1 unit placed on #26
              + 1 unit placed on #33
23 Win!
      (Bank Roll= 12.80)
    Bet made:- 1 unit placed on #13
              + 1 unit placed on #23
              + 1 unit placed on #26
              + 1 unit placed on #33
13 Win!
      (Bank Roll= 16.00)
End of session   (BR + 6.00)

Now you tell me how he did that on an RNG casino, with just a few numbers tracked first!

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