I have a GW System and i am willing to sell it!!!The sytem cost a 3500 dollars i will give it for 300 euro and it is a real deal!!!
Here is the sample: 
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCTHBFK7 if you can’t play it with wmp try vlc player!!!
My MoneyBookers email is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and i will send it instantly!
Hurry while it last!
5 copies left!!

LISTEN YOU FOOL, TAKE YOUR WORTHLESS
SYSTEM AND STICK IT.
THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO BEAT
A GAME NOT GET BEAT OUT OF THEIR MONEY BY
SOME CON ARTIST.

WORTHLESS PIECE OF GARBAGE.

5 copies left, huh?............I enjoy these commercial’s…....

KLUGMO - 10 August 2010 02:20 AM

LISTEN YOU FOOL, TAKE YOUR WORTHLESS
SYSTEM AND STICK IT.
THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO BEAT
A GAME NOT GET BEAT OUT OF THEIR MONEY BY
SOME CON ARTIST.

WORTHLESS PIECE OF GARBAGE.

You are a fool because you belive competitors who wants to sell more of theres systems and softwares!!!
This system is legit 100%!!!
Here is some proofs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT1tQqEhOyU

http://www.roulettewars.com/
And I will tell you this that out there there is no system that work because table and rng can’t be beaten but the wheel can!!Maybe Roulette bandit but and this system is not 100% good some saying that is good some…!
And Super roulette software i think that this software is really good becuase it’s on roulette table without zero and playing with 0.001 cents!!
Genuine system is something else it’s based on maths and how react the wheel!!
Peace

You go ahead and play it, buy it, use it, enjoy it.

KLUGMO - 10 August 2010 02:20 AM

LISTEN YOU FOOL, TAKE YOUR WORTHLESS
SYSTEM AND STICK IT.
THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO BEAT
A GAME NOT GET BEAT OUT OF THEIR MONEY BY
SOME CON ARTIST.

WORTHLESS PIECE OF GARBAGE.

Why are you so mad? the guy just told everyone how some stuff available on the market works. do you want people being cheated by those conman? no system will be efficient as they claims…if you read many forums will observe how they create a virtual discussion, menaing they ask something with different username and they respond raising the system up to the sky…if you ask something they will tell you that you are stupind and don’t undestand anythig from their system….take care guys when you pay for such stuff….

Everything on the market works short term.
You could throw darts at a board of numbers
and it would work short term. The point is they are selling
worthless crap that they just make up, one after the next.
The game is random . That is why it all works short term.
When will everyone learn that money management is
your only long term advantage.

Everyone wants a quick fix. Lazy people buy this stuff.
F**K them all.
More for me.

KLUGMO, show everyone here how to make $30,000 to $40,000 a month since nothing else works in the long-term. Prove to them your methods since you care so damn much for them not to buy systems, rich guy…. When ever you get through with your response, tell everyone here how to win since you make the most here. Let them test out your methods O’ great one…..

KLUGMO - 22 August 2010 01:20 PM

Everything on the market works short term.
You could throw darts at a board of numbers
and it would work short term. The point is they are selling
worthless crap that they just make up, one after the next.
The game is random . That is why it all works short term.
When will everyone learn that money management is
your only long term advantage.

Everyone wants a quick fix. Lazy people buy this stuff.
F**K them all.
More for me.

You make $30,000 to $40,000 a month dummy, why are you mad at everyone here??.. I think you are telling on your self. You would not be here if you made that much money every month…....Look in the mirror and apologise to your self..

Again with the comprehension issue. I have detailed
three of my methods in previous threads. I have also
advised all that they need to find their own methods that
they believe in and practice good money management.
I don’t need to prove my methods, they are mine. You have
your own and I would suggest to you that you re-read what
I have said about balls and you surely could be at the next level.

The only ones that I am mad at here are the spammers who try
to sell good people what they already have. It’s just wrong.
I have a lot of casual time on my hands between trips and
Love reading all the various theories about winning at roulette.

Listen; whatever way you play it should be easy to get up
$50. By playing the exact same game ,that could be $250
or $500 with just playing with different value chips. This
isn’t brain surgery. It’s the ball factor.

Retaining that $500 is the real skill. You are fighting against
your fear and natural inclinations.
99 of 100 go to a casino to have fun and enjoy themselves.
That one, goes there to withdraw money. He will not drink
and he is mobile. You will probably not even notice him. He
will win medium amounts and be on his way un-noticed.
At the end of the night he has won large and will be back again
still un-noticed.

Well, KLUGMO I havn’t been playing for 35 years and yes you are right, I hate to loose at what ever I do.  Soon enough that fear will cease.  I remember when I first started , you should’a seen me KLUGMO, so nervous I could not control my self…..lol, heart pounding for no damn reason, sweating , etc.  Now I am more calim.  I understand what you mean about betting more and winning more.  If I win $200 a day with my method, I can win lots more if I bet more.  I can’t afford to loose huge amounts because this is how I make my living.  The fear of loosing is not yet gone, how do you deal with fear??.  I will continue to work my way up to that point…..........Also,How much have you ever loss in one session?

When I approach a table I always observe all the # boards first and
the dealers. This will sound weird but some dealers just give off bad vibes.
I look for a table that is giving patterns of color. At least 5 in a row.
What I do is increase the odds of hitting inside by applying the red and black, odd-even
high low to it. This is one very profitable method. I will have $150 to $180 on the table
each spin. This is why one small streak of wins can put you way up quickly. Then you
leave and on to another table or casino. Over the coarse of a night you hit and run
and can amass a few thousand fairly easy. Don’t get me wrong, there ARE periods that
nothing works right. This is where as you know money management and discipline
are king. Changing methods, dinner, a show, a nap, a walk, a sit and people watch.
All these things can change the demon of defeat. A very important skill is recognition.
That is what will save you. Recognize the demon and stop. You cant control him but
you can control yourself. I have learned this lesson the hard way. A couple times I lost
almost $8,000. It is really good that you remember what you were like when you started.
It shows and proves to you that you have and will continue to get better. I know you will
because you observe and see everything.

I suggest you set a small percentage aside from wins as a bank for future testing. In the future
when you are ready to try the larger chips. When I play the chips in my mind have no value.
I am just accumulating chips and I make that important to me. I start each table with 100 $10 chips.
It is very rare that I reach my 3rd table with a $2,000 loss. The 3rd table warrants heavy betting at that
point and always pays off with a change of method, casino or a break.

A session to me is one table trip. I may reach almost 30 sessions a night.
By that time I am very tired and sore and it will show in my play. What I
do there is not fun or enjoyable until I am heading home with a smile.
Control over your emotions and being able to turn off the value of
the chips is very, very, important. If I couldn’t do that I could not play
successfully.

I am glad to see the nice side of you.

I knew it was there. You should practice emotional control seriously.
Put yourself in tense situations on purpose and practice control.
At the table just looking at me , you would not be able to tell
when I win or loose each spin.

I am tired will talk more later.
I have not given details like this before to anyone.

I am thankful and will definitely take these things into consideration. I have more to share, I am tired as well, later

Sorry Peter,

but Genuine Winner is anything but a genuine winner. I have it on pc. I have a whole library of systems that just do not work. Really speaking, that means all systems. I do not pay for systems, I have a very broad roulette friendship ring and these systems get sent to me to evaluate. It just does not work. Make no mistake Steve Hormouzis is a system and roulette cpu seller and a scammer. That is how I see it.

You other are welcome to the system if you like. He does sell the damn thing for $3000. It’s not worth the paper it’s printed on and is based on dealer signature. Dealer signature except for one or two examples pretty much fails. There is one DS method I know of that has merit and comes from someone more knowledgable than all of us put together. The guy I’m referring to is based in the States.

Forget about damn systems guys! Except for the money out of pocket for the system they will cost you in real play as well.

One day I will find all knowlege humanly possible about Roulette.  “What can a mind know that another cannot learn?..”  I believe King Solomon would have been the best Roulette player history could ever write if he were to ever have played a foolish game such as Roulette due to the unmatchable wisdom GOD gave him. Steve George Hourmouzis you mean?  DS?  Two subjects I am eager to learn more about(Google, here I come…..be right back

This is who VB MEISTER IS REFERRING TO>>>.............Real name is Steven George Hourmouzis   1.That his roulette computer to be ineffective( video footage he used to promote his product was using dealer signature, in other words he uses a simple skill where the ball and rotor are spun consistantly and a number noted at a reference point when he releases the ball) He had this removed claiming copyright infringement using the free DMCA service, yet I still have the footage and the freezed frames showing his devious scam. I am going to court shortly to have this publically shown under the fair use act.I have personally passed this on to the police and authorites in Australia.
2.That he has been formerly locked up in prison for scamming people through the internet. See his court papers below courtesy of the High Court in Melbourne , Australia See Court papers below.
3.That his name is a fake, his real name is Steven George Hourmouzis, Not Stefano Hourmouzis which is used to hide his real past and identity. See Court Papers below.
4.That he has a large mortgage and has not won millions like he claims or has multi million dollar incomes from his ficticious teams using his products, he is no millionaire, but a crane driver.
5.Revealed numberous users and purchasers of his devices all claiming it does not work, I have at least 100 complaint s, 10 of them are right here on this site allowing me to show evidence of this scammer.
6.That is genuinewinner system that costs $2000 was stolen from a Mr Oops site who use to give the system away for free
7.His fabricated seminars where he shows pictures of himself claiming its not him in empty rooms with empty chairs and a roulette wheel so you think its a genuine seminar, its not, DO NOT BE FOOLED!
8.We asked him to show that he really had transmitter pens like us to his computer, he showed just a picture of a pen claiming it had electronics inside it, no one has ever received one, they do not exist!
9.Claimed to have million pound offices and security, the truth is all his videos are done in his mortgaged home owned by his wife, its the same carpet, blinds and cat in the video.
He has made numberous desperate feeble attempts to discredit me, including posting false information and negative reviews and information about my products on his sites in order to increase sales on his own products. He it widely accepted that his products DO NOT WORK amongst his purchasers and experts in the field and that his footage was indeed orchastrated to fool and lure people into thinking his products genuinely predicted that well.He has since been reported to the office of fair trading in Australia by many people around the globe, 10 of them have kindly allowed me to post their comments here.