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I need a 20 step progression for 12 inside numbers.
Posted: 29 October 2013 06:55 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I have noticed a pattern over some 50,000 RNG spins that keeps popping up within a 1 to 8 spin range with the highest i have seen was 19 spins, therefore I am looking for a 20 step progression.

Placing bets on the 12 individual numbers (from my patttern that I noticed)the win ratio is as follows (rounded up or down to nearest percent)

Step 1 28%
Step 2 56%
Step 3 72%
Step 4 80%
Step 5 85%
Step 6 92%
Step 7 98%

With a 35-1 payout minus the 12 bets with a 98% win rate within 7 steps the profit should be around +300 to +700 units per hour of play.  Just testing the standard 1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14 progression I was able to make $50 (500 units)in 20 min using $0.10 cent min bets per number, however did run into streaks where there were more than 9 steps between wins, but never more than 19 so I want a 20 step progression that doesn’t necessarily win plus profit after a loss, but does win enough to make back your losses plus a profit within a decent amount of time. 

Can anyone help?

The pattern is very simple.  I will post it in the systems thread once I can get a decent progression

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Posted: 31 October 2013 02:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Nimo - 29 October 2013 06:55 PM

I have noticed a pattern over some 50,000 RNG spins that keeps popping up within a 1 to 8 spin range with the highest i have seen was 19 spins, therefore I am looking for a 20 step progression.

Placing bets on the 12 individual numbers (from my patttern that I noticed)the win ratio is as follows (rounded up or down to nearest percent)

Step 1 28%
Step 2 56%
Step 3 72%
Step 4 80%
Step 5 85%
Step 6 92%
Step 7 98%

With a 35-1 payout minus the 12 bets with a 98% win rate within 7 steps the profit should be around +300 to +700 units per hour of play.  Just testing the standard 1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14 progression I was able to make $50 (500 units)in 20 min using $0.10 cent min bets per number, however did run into streaks where there were more than 9 steps between wins, but never more than 19 so I want a 20 step progression that doesn’t necessarily win plus profit after a loss, but does win enough to make back your losses plus a profit within a decent amount of time. 

Can anyone help?

The pattern is very simple.  I will post it in the systems thread once I can get a decent progression

  Hi Nimo,
        Welcome to the forum.
        You are making the common mistake of trying to outbet the wheel. Even if you are correct and a 20 step progression would never lose, you are unlikely to find a casino that would allow you to place the very large bets required. In view of the huge bankroll that would be needed, why would you try???
      Using the figures you have supplied, in every 100 plays, you stand to win 1800 units and lose only 624, for a profit of almost 1200 units. A 20 step progression is not likely to do much better.

      Why risk thousands of units when you can do almost as well with 300???

      Punter’s GREED is the most powerful weapon the casino has!!!

    Seems like you have a good idea. don’t spoil it!!
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Posted: 31 October 2013 04:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Units per number

1

1

2

3

4

6

9

14

21

31

47

70

105

158

237

355

533

800

1200

1800

Need a bankroll of 64764 units

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Posted: 01 November 2013 03:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I was too lazy to work all that out!!!

  ’ nuff said!!
         
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Posted: 01 November 2013 10:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Hi Nimo,
    Ethelgaeb’s effort shamed me into producing what you asked for, a 20 spin progression that accepts loses along the way to reduce the cost. To be effective this type of progression must start losing early. They get larger as the progression lengthens but remains no
more than 10% of cost to that point.
    I still think you will have trouble finding a casino to accept your bets. The total cost is well under 10% of Ethelgaeb’s.

Spin-Total Bet- Running Total- Return-Profit/Loss.

1]    10       10     36     26
2]    10       20     36     16
3]    10       30     36       6
4]    10       40     36     -4
5]    20       60     72     12
6]    20       80     72     -8
7]    30     110   108     -2
8]    40     150   144     -6   So far loses have been small for 99% of plays
9]    50     200   180   -20
10]  70     270   252   -18
11]  90     360   324   -36
12]  120     480   432   -48   Bets and loses now mount rapidly
13]  160     640   576   -64
14]  220     860   792   -68
15]  300   1160   1080   -80
16]  400   1560   1440   -120   Recovery now becomes a problem,
17]  550   2110   1980   -130   You are simply reducing bankroll loses.
18]  750   2860   2700   -160
19] 1000   3860   3600   -260
20] 1350   5210   4860   -350

    This progression will only work if you never go past bet 20.  After about bet 12 you are merely safeguarding your bankroll.

    Hope this answers you origional request. You can PM me with results whatever you decide.

    Best wishes and good luck           Harry

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Posted: 01 November 2013 01:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Yep. Looks A Lot better than mine. I just built a pure progression without much safety net built in.

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Posted: 02 November 2013 11:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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ehtelgaeb - 01 November 2013 01:51 PM

Yep. Looks A Lot better than mine. I just built a pure progression without much safety net built in.

  Mine wasn’t intended to be better.  Your’s showed perfectly that you can’t outbet the wheel.
    I just wanted to show that even with safeguards you can’t climb out of the hole you are digging.

  PROGRESSIONS ARE TOOLS NOT WEAPONS!! YOU CAN’T KILL THE CASINO, YOU CAN ONLY BUILD A SHELTER TO HELP YOU SURVIVE!!!

              Good luck           Harry

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Posted: 04 November 2013 06:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Nimo you make a newbie mistake. The rules for the roulette are very simpel but the game very difficult.
As a beginner you must know, number betting requires a very large bankroll
You have to start gambling on ECs,dozens or columns and double street.

12 Random numbers have the same chance as a dozen . Play dozens you can start with 1 unit in stead of 12.

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Posted: 04 November 2013 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Thanks for everyone’s input.  I have played roulette off and on for a few years and have done quite well with it.  I just notice new patterns and want to exploit the hell out of them in any which shape or form.  I prefer to test with real money so I like to get some feedback and a different outlook from what I am doing.  I will post the systems that I am in the systems section and you can see if they work for you or help me to make them better.

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Posted: 06 November 2013 04:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I understand ,you are not a Newbie on the roulette.Do you play Eurorean or American Roulette and in the casino or on Internet.

The 2/3 rule tells you, on 36 spins there are on average 12 unhit numbers. These numbers forms a dozen of 12 random numbers. This particular dozen has the same features as the normal dozens. The speciality is the=at this dozen has not fallen in 36 spins. For a dozen ,this is extraordinary!! Try out your system , knowing this phenomina

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Posted: 06 November 2013 06:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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dobbelsteen - 06 November 2013 04:45 AM

I understand ,you are not a Newbie on the roulette.Do you play Eurorean or American Roulette and in the casino or on Internet.

The 2/3 rule tells you, on 36 spins there are on average 12 unhit numbers. These numbers forms a dozen of 12 random numbers. This particular dozen has the same features as the normal dozens. The speciality is the=at this dozen has not fallen in 36 spins. For a dozen ,this is extraordinary!! Try out your system , knowing this phenomina

  Hi Dobbelsteen,

      I read about this Rule of 2/3 dealing with 36 spins many years ago.
  The article was about a player who “claimed” to have made a lot of
  money based on the rule. He would chart tables and at any point
  where he saw 24 different numbers within a 36 spin cycle he would
  use a betting progression on the 24 numbers that had already shown.
  If he saw 24 different numbers in say 32 or 33 spins he would use a
  progression on those 24 numbers for the next few spins til the 36th
  spin. I tested it years ago and it was surprisingly good, that’s if you
  have a trememdous bankroll and balls of steel! 
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Posted: 12 November 2013 05:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Posted: 12 November 2013 06:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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tomuen - 12 November 2013 05:12 AM

there can only be one guys!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvsHPvtpS2M

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Posted: 12 November 2013 06:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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scepticus - 12 November 2013 06:22 AM
tomuen - 12 November 2013 05:12 AM

there can only be one guys!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvsHPvtpS2M

Oh ! Christ ! Another one claiming his is the ONLY winning strategy ! First AP now tomuen . Anyone else claim to be a clairvoyant ?


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Posted: 12 November 2013 06:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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tomuen - 12 November 2013 06:40 AM
scepticus - 12 November 2013 06:22 AM
tomuen - 12 November 2013 05:12 AM

there can only be one guys!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvsHPvtpS2M

Oh ! Christ ! Another one claiming his is the ONLY winning strategy ! First AP now tomuen . Anyone else claim to be a clairvoyant ?


yes thats right!!!

forget the chug chug !!!  watch my video here make £100in 15 minutes!!!  wink

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Posted: 12 November 2013 07:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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scepticus - 12 November 2013 06:51 AM
tomuen - 12 November 2013 06:40 AM
scepticus - 12 November 2013 06:22 AM
tomuen - 12 November 2013 05:12 AM

there can only be one guys!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvsHPvtpS2M

Oh ! Christ ! Another one claiming his is the ONLY winning strategy ! First AP now tomuen . Anyone else claim to be a clairvoyant ?


yes thats right!!!

forget the chug chug !!!  watch my video here make £100in 15 minutes!!!  wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7DRdmMYsMM

tomuen

o.k. tomuen
How do you know yours is the only method that wins ?
What is your chip value ?Your bank size ?
thanks

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