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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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tomuen - 21 March 2014 01:10 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 01:02 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:56 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 12:50 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:25 PM

Jacob,
          Let the proof speak for itself! I have been in
          in business many years, is this the manner in
          which a worldwide corporation like William Hill
          Casinos would issue a company check? What
          online casino in the “WORLD” issues an account
          withdrawal check the same day? Look at the
          the date of issuance of the check and what
          today’s date is. Is the Postal Service in the UK
          that good to deliver a check in a matter of a
          few hours? These are the kinds of things I have
          bought to the attention of this forum countless
          times. This man Amrik has just shown you the
          same contempt as he has with other members of
          this forum, by trying to pass off a picture of a
          check he supposed received today from William
          Hill Casino which is a clear insult to anyone with
          a brain. Now Jacob, tell me how it’s feels to be
          insulted by this man thinking your the “MORON.”
          Because in so many ways, that’s exactly what
          he thinks of you by posting this outrageous
          fraud of a check! So do you still think this man
          should have such an honored place on YOUR
          forum? Thank You, Louie?Chingy

Posted: 21 March 2014 10:47 AM   [ Report ]  [ Ignore ]  [ # 7989 ] 
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my wages for today thanks to williamhill plus £5000 yesterday


tom

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Sorry I’m unable to upload the William Hill “check”
but you can go to Amrik post directly yourself and
see it!

Chingy.  I have heard that online winnings can be collected in person from a william hill betting shop.  How this
transaction is done I am not sure but it is possible the cheque is genuine and maybe someone can add to this
process.  However, how does this money prove any winnings?  It could have been a deposit cashed out in this
way, or a lucky win after a £3505 loss….?

What you seem to have missed in all of this is his posts just before the picture.  They do not add up to the amount
he cashed out?  It makes very little sense as with many other things.


Pertinax,

    I just spoke with William Hill Casino exeucutive and sent a picture of the check!
    This is a down right FRAUD!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!

I have no reason to believe this anymore then I do amrik.  Chingy, calm down a little.  Reread my post then look at amriks
just before he posted the picture.  The total sum of the cheque does not add up to what he claimed he was cashing out, and
also, one minute he has to go to work and will do a video later, then he does a video?  Then has to go to work but then is
going down to obtain a cheque from a shop?


the reason it doesn’t add up is becuase ive £1000 in cash for tonights fun and beer wink


also it takes 30 minutes to get paid form williamhill as they are great plus have local shops everywhere!!  wink  I hope this helps you guys!

tom

Tom .... you are a joke.

Pertinax…. what you referred to about Tom Not going to post a vid and then does… Or the other way round .... has been exactly what I have been saying. It is curve fitting.  Fact is he is not posting vids he doesn’t people to see.

Chingy. you should post the conversation you had with WH.

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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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VB Meister - 23 March 2014 01:24 PM
tomuen - 21 March 2014 01:10 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 01:02 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:56 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 12:50 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:25 PM

Jacob,
          Let the proof speak for itself! I have been in
          in business many years, is this the manner in
          which a worldwide corporation like William Hill
          Casinos would issue a company check? What
          online casino in the “WORLD” issues an account
          withdrawal check the same day? Look at the
          the date of issuance of the check and what
          today’s date is. Is the Postal Service in the UK
          that good to deliver a check in a matter of a
          few hours? These are the kinds of things I have
          bought to the attention of this forum countless
          times. This man Amrik has just shown you the
          same contempt as he has with other members of
          this forum, by trying to pass off a picture of a
          check he supposed received today from William
          Hill Casino which is a clear insult to anyone with
          a brain. Now Jacob, tell me how it’s feels to be
          insulted by this man thinking your the “MORON.”
          Because in so many ways, that’s exactly what
          he thinks of you by posting this outrageous
          fraud of a check! So do you still think this man
          should have such an honored place on YOUR
          forum? Thank You, Louie?Chingy

Posted: 21 March 2014 10:47 AM   [ Report ]  [ Ignore ]  [ # 7989 ] 
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my wages for today thanks to williamhill plus £5000 yesterday


tom

Image Attachments
Click thumbnail to see full-size image


Sorry I’m unable to upload the William Hill “check”
but you can go to Amrik post directly yourself and
see it!

Chingy.  I have heard that online winnings can be collected in person from a william hill betting shop.  How this
transaction is done I am not sure but it is possible the cheque is genuine and maybe someone can add to this
process.  However, how does this money prove any winnings?  It could have been a deposit cashed out in this
way, or a lucky win after a £3505 loss….?

What you seem to have missed in all of this is his posts just before the picture.  They do not add up to the amount
he cashed out?  It makes very little sense as with many other things.


Pertinax,

    I just spoke with William Hill Casino exeucutive and sent a picture of the check!
    This is a down right FRAUD!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!

I have no reason to believe this anymore then I do amrik.  Chingy, calm down a little.  Reread my post then look at amriks
just before he posted the picture.  The total sum of the cheque does not add up to what he claimed he was cashing out, and
also, one minute he has to go to work and will do a video later, then he does a video?  Then has to go to work but then is
going down to obtain a cheque from a shop?


the reason it doesn’t add up is becuase ive £1000 in cash for tonights fun and beer wink


also it takes 30 minutes to get paid form williamhill as they are great plus have local shops everywhere!!  wink  I hope this helps you guys!

tom

Tom .... you are a joke.

Pertinax…. what you referred to about Tom Not going to post a vud and then dies….. ir the other way round .... has been exactly what I have been saying. It is curve fitting. He will trll you he is going ti post. Thrn he doesn’t because of sime ir other reason. Or vica versa. Fact us he is posting vids he wsnts people to see….. and neglecting the ones that fail.

Chingy. you should post the conversation you had with WH.

 

Yes great lets see that so called conversation and my guess is ur gonna ur not gonna feel like a twit vb! wink

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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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tomuen - 23 March 2014 01:28 PM
VB Meister - 23 March 2014 01:24 PM
tomuen - 21 March 2014 01:10 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 01:02 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:56 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 12:50 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:25 PM

Jacob,
          Let the proof speak for itself! I have been in
          in business many years, is this the manner in
          which a worldwide corporation like William Hill
          Casinos would issue a company check? What
          online casino in the “WORLD” issues an account
          withdrawal check the same day? Look at the
          the date of issuance of the check and what
          today’s date is. Is the Postal Service in the UK
          that good to deliver a check in a matter of a
          few hours? These are the kinds of things I have
          bought to the attention of this forum countless
          times. This man Amrik has just shown you the
          same contempt as he has with other members of
          this forum, by trying to pass off a picture of a
          check he supposed received today from William
          Hill Casino which is a clear insult to anyone with
          a brain. Now Jacob, tell me how it’s feels to be
          insulted by this man thinking your the “MORON.”
          Because in so many ways, that’s exactly what
          he thinks of you by posting this outrageous
          fraud of a check! So do you still think this man
          should have such an honored place on YOUR
          forum? Thank You, Louie?Chingy

Posted: 21 March 2014 10:47 AM   [ Report ]  [ Ignore ]  [ # 7989 ] 
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Total Posts:  4299
Joined 2011-10-26

 

 

my wages for today thanks to williamhill plus £5000 yesterday


tom

Image Attachments
Click thumbnail to see full-size image


Sorry I’m unable to upload the William Hill “check”
but you can go to Amrik post directly yourself and
see it!

Chingy.  I have heard that online winnings can be collected in person from a william hill betting shop.  How this
transaction is done I am not sure but it is possible the cheque is genuine and maybe someone can add to this
process.  However, how does this money prove any winnings?  It could have been a deposit cashed out in this
way, or a lucky win after a £3505 loss….?

What you seem to have missed in all of this is his posts just before the picture.  They do not add up to the amount
he cashed out?  It makes very little sense as with many other things.


Pertinax,

    I just spoke with William Hill Casino exeucutive and sent a picture of the check!
    This is a down right FRAUD!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!

I have no reason to believe this anymore then I do amrik.  Chingy, calm down a little.  Reread my post then look at amriks
just before he posted the picture.  The total sum of the cheque does not add up to what he claimed he was cashing out, and
also, one minute he has to go to work and will do a video later, then he does a video?  Then has to go to work but then is
going down to obtain a cheque from a shop?


the reason it doesn’t add up is becuase ive £1000 in cash for tonights fun and beer wink


also it takes 30 minutes to get paid form williamhill as they are great plus have local shops everywhere!!  wink  I hope this helps you guys!

tom

Tom .... you are a joke.

Pertinax…. what you referred to about Tom Not going to post a vud and then dies….. ir the other way round .... has been exactly what I have been saying. It is curve fitting. He will trll you he is going ti post. Thrn he doesn’t because of sime ir other reason. Or vica versa. Fact us he is posting vids he wsnts people to see….. and neglecting the ones that fail.

Chingy. you should post the conversation you had with WH.

 

Yes great lets see that so called conversation and my guess is ur gonna ur not gonna feel like a twit vb! wink

Tom

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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Simple reason we can all tell chingy is making up this so called conversation is that casinos will not discuss othrr membrrs accounts!! Vb u should know thebasics before posting.

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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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VB Meister - 23 March 2014 01:31 PM
tomuen - 23 March 2014 01:28 PM
VB Meister - 23 March 2014 01:24 PM
tomuen - 21 March 2014 01:10 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 01:02 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:56 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 12:50 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:25 PM

Jacob,
          Let the proof speak for itself! I have been in
          in business many years, is this the manner in
          which a worldwide corporation like William Hill
          Casinos would issue a company check? What
          online casino in the “WORLD” issues an account
          withdrawal check the same day? Look at the
          the date of issuance of the check and what
          today’s date is. Is the Postal Service in the UK
          that good to deliver a check in a matter of a
          few hours? These are the kinds of things I have
          bought to the attention of this forum countless
          times. This man Amrik has just shown you the
          same contempt as he has with other members of
          this forum, by trying to pass off a picture of a
          check he supposed received today from William
          Hill Casino which is a clear insult to anyone with
          a brain. Now Jacob, tell me how it’s feels to be
          insulted by this man thinking your the “MORON.”
          Because in so many ways, that’s exactly what
          he thinks of you by posting this outrageous
          fraud of a check! So do you still think this man
          should have such an honored place on YOUR
          forum? Thank You, Louie?Chingy

Posted: 21 March 2014 10:47 AM   [ Report ]  [ Ignore ]  [ # 7989 ] 
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Total Posts:  4299
Joined 2011-10-26

 

 

my wages for today thanks to williamhill plus £5000 yesterday


tom

Image Attachments
Click thumbnail to see full-size image


Sorry I’m unable to upload the William Hill “check”
but you can go to Amrik post directly yourself and
see it!

Chingy.  I have heard that online winnings can be collected in person from a william hill betting shop.  How this
transaction is done I am not sure but it is possible the cheque is genuine and maybe someone can add to this
process.  However, how does this money prove any winnings?  It could have been a deposit cashed out in this
way, or a lucky win after a £3505 loss….?

What you seem to have missed in all of this is his posts just before the picture.  They do not add up to the amount
he cashed out?  It makes very little sense as with many other things.


Pertinax,

    I just spoke with William Hill Casino exeucutive and sent a picture of the check!
    This is a down right FRAUD!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!

I have no reason to believe this anymore then I do amrik.  Chingy, calm down a little.  Reread my post then look at amriks
just before he posted the picture.  The total sum of the cheque does not add up to what he claimed he was cashing out, and
also, one minute he has to go to work and will do a video later, then he does a video?  Then has to go to work but then is
going down to obtain a cheque from a shop?


the reason it doesn’t add up is becuase ive £1000 in cash for tonights fun and beer wink


also it takes 30 minutes to get paid form williamhill as they are great plus have local shops everywhere!!  wink  I hope this helps you guys!

tom

Tom .... you are a joke.

Pertinax…. what you referred to about Tom Not going to post a vud and then dies….. ir the other way round .... has been exactly what I have been saying. It is curve fitting. He will trll you he is going ti post. Thrn he doesn’t because of sime ir other reason. Or vica versa. Fact us he is posting vids he wsnts people to see….. and neglecting the ones that fail.

Chingy. you should post the conversation you had with WH.

 

Yes great lets see that so called conversation and my guess is ur gonna ur not gonna feel like a twit vb! wink

Tom

No chance if that. I was most probably the first, right from
the start who called your scam. I know thre math and you cannot hide behind a ‘secret algorythm’ forever. We both know it is bs.

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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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If Chingy has proof about that…..then post evidence !!!!!!
Or else shut the fuck up !!!!!  Do something better in your life.
If you have true evidence I will support you 100%.

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Posted: 23 March 2014 01:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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ptzelepis - 23 March 2014 01:43 PM

If Chingy has proof about that…..then post evidence !!!!!!
Or else shut the fuck up !!!!!  Do something better in your life.
If you have true evidence I will support you 100%.

 

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Posted: 23 March 2014 02:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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VB Meister - 23 March 2014 01:24 PM
tomuen - 21 March 2014 01:10 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 01:02 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:56 PM
Pertinax - 21 March 2014 12:50 PM
Chingy711 - 21 March 2014 12:25 PM

Jacob,
          Let the proof speak for itself! I have been in
          in business many years, is this the manner in
          which a worldwide corporation like William Hill
          Casinos would issue a company check? What
          online casino in the “WORLD” issues an account
          withdrawal check the same day? Look at the
          the date of issuance of the check and what
          today’s date is. Is the Postal Service in the UK
          that good to deliver a check in a matter of a
          few hours? These are the kinds of things I have
          bought to the attention of this forum countless
          times. This man Amrik has just shown you the
          same contempt as he has with other members of
          this forum, by trying to pass off a picture of a
          check he supposed received today from William
          Hill Casino which is a clear insult to anyone with
          a brain. Now Jacob, tell me how it’s feels to be
          insulted by this man thinking your the “MORON.”
          Because in so many ways, that’s exactly what
          he thinks of you by posting this outrageous
          fraud of a check! So do you still think this man
          should have such an honored place on YOUR
          forum? Thank You, Louie?Chingy

Posted: 21 March 2014 10:47 AM   [ Report ]  [ Ignore ]  [ # 7989 ] 
tomuen
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Total Posts:  4299
Joined 2011-10-26

 

 

my wages for today thanks to williamhill plus £5000 yesterday


tom

Image Attachments
Click thumbnail to see full-size image


Sorry I’m unable to upload the William Hill “check”
but you can go to Amrik post directly yourself and
see it!

Chingy.  I have heard that online winnings can be collected in person from a william hill betting shop.  How this
transaction is done I am not sure but it is possible the cheque is genuine and maybe someone can add to this
process.  However, how does this money prove any winnings?  It could have been a deposit cashed out in this
way, or a lucky win after a £3505 loss….?

What you seem to have missed in all of this is his posts just before the picture.  They do not add up to the amount
he cashed out?  It makes very little sense as with many other things.


Pertinax,

    I just spoke with William Hill Casino exeucutive and sent a picture of the check!
    This is a down right FRAUD!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!

I have no reason to believe this anymore then I do amrik.  Chingy, calm down a little.  Reread my post then look at amriks
just before he posted the picture.  The total sum of the cheque does not add up to what he claimed he was cashing out, and
also, one minute he has to go to work and will do a video later, then he does a video?  Then has to go to work but then is
going down to obtain a cheque from a shop?


the reason it doesn’t add up is becuase ive £1000 in cash for tonights fun and beer wink


also it takes 30 minutes to get paid form williamhill as they are great plus have local shops everywhere!!  wink  I hope this helps you guys!

tom

Tom .... you are a joke.

Pertinax…. what you referred to about Tom Not going to post a vid and then does… Or the other way round .... has been exactly what I have been saying. It is curve fitting.  Fact is he is not posting vids he doesn’t people to see.

Chingy. you should post the conversation you had with WH.

I am with you all the way on this VB.  This bot should be run against an RNG, I bet this piece of crap will perform
exactly the same as the RNG.  His “testers” maybe able to convince themselves otherwise for now, but when it does
go pop again your remark on curve fitting is all that is left.

It is also amazing that we can see from chingy’s post, that he has been saying this bollocks about having the key to
the kindom of roulette since 2011, now in 2014 and several fails later he says exactly the same thing.  If his “testers”
still cannot see this they are really delusional. grin You gotta laugh really.

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Posted: 23 March 2014 02:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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this thread seems to have joined the ranks of the other cesspools…

really guys? :(

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Posted: 23 March 2014 02:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Jacob - 23 March 2014 02:27 PM

what a cesspool :(


i agree!!I want to concentrate on the work we are doing on the iamprojectx thread!!  So i if you can tell chingy and perintex to stay away from iamprojectx and i will stay on the pxbots side maybe thats the only way to make this sillyness to stop.


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Posted: 23 March 2014 03:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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I vote on that

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Posted: 23 March 2014 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Jacob - 23 March 2014 02:27 PM

this thread seems to have joined the ranks of the other cesspools…

really guys? :(


What do you suggest.  It revoles around one topic, there is only one common denominator throughout the whole forum,
not just this thread and it all revolves around making money from other members.  This despite the fact he claims to have
a multi million pound bot…..............????????????????

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Posted: 23 March 2014 03:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Did I make these POSTS up? These aren’t my words and
they clearly speak to the FACT that the thread and man in
question has one agenda> William Hill would never violate the
laws of privacy, but they will confirm the fact of how their
withdrawal payments are made. Their checks are NEVER hand
written!

  Public Affairs team
  Tel: +44 (0)20 8918 3600

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“There i a very good reason why i would like to be able to charge for all the incredible work that i have achieved when it comes to delivering a personal cashpoint to each of my members but before i do this i so want them to recoup any loss’s they have had along the way while testing px!! And i think thats fair don’t you.”


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“Hi there i will be putting up a few more videos hopefully a little clearer than the other ones with a title telling you how much each session made none are over15minutes due to the allowance of the time limit on utube!
Also i’ve had a lot of eamils ask to explain how to use iamprojectx so i will try to explain a little better under the posts stratergies !!
So please check it out and spread the word lets get more peolpe testing and posting comments. Amrik

ps i would have gone to other roulette forums also but after my topics became hot topics in those forums i started to did recieve a number of private PM’s from the moderators who wanted me to let one of there programmers bot iamprojectx and after i declined they warned me me to stop selling my system on there forums which i always said was free and so they warned me to stop spamming on there forums and finally they’ve banned me.
This is just a warning to all of you that most of the forums are policed by big brother the same peolpe who only want ur ideas.
I will give you an example try mentioning iamprojectx and starting topics around it on rouletteforum.cc or visroulette.com and wait for ur posts to be deleted and then the warnings will start!

Im glad this forum is different!!!”

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Hi guys i just wanted to publically thank Jacob for allowing me this space on his forum to help bring PX and the future bots to you all! One and a half years ago i tried introducing PX on all other rouletteforums but was banned on all of them!]

They all said roulette cannot be beaten! Even though they were all selling there own systems and they did try to pretend to wanna help me get PX off the ground but luckily i sent them dummy copys of PX to see if they were genuienly there to help and no supprise to me looks they they simply wanted the alogrithum.  Tomuen”


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“ps. There is a demo table available incase you worried about using real cash! I can also show you how to make $50-$100 inside 20minutes using the bot! Just remember theres never a 100% gurantee with gambling, but i believe we are the closest to the HolyGrail than anyone else out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Come and get your free cashpoint here!!!!!!

After the trial period the cost for the Bot is £50 and then end of every week a £15.00 rental fee will be payable!”


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Hey therelooks like the moderators have banned me from roulettforum.cc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apparently i was selling a system which is actually what they are doing themselves and i told them mine was free!!!!!!!!!!!!
But i guess becasue they couldn’t figure out why or how my system was working so they’ve decide to ban me instead!And they excuse is i was selling systems!!!!!

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Ahh well what iv’e decided is to let my original group of testers will have the bot free now!! So no more £50.00 charge, once we have recouped there loss’s then only at a much later date will we think about bringing in the rental charges

However any new newbies that wanna join in should pay £50.00 to join my team at this late stage to help towards the further development costs for pxbot2!!!!!! 
Once again rental charge will only apply once we can be sure everyone is making a profit! tomuen”


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tomuen - 29 January 2014 11:13 AM

well i will charge each member £50.00 for the bot as there is partycasino and williamhill all in one after that i will add new casinos!!

At the end of each week i will charge a rental fee which i think £50.00 is fair as the profits for each member should be far more and each account will come with 2 passwords so members can run 2 bots at any time. tom”

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Posted: 25 March 2014 12:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Good grief!  I leave you kids alone for a weekend while I run dogs and you have not merely thrown all the sand in your sandboxes at each other, but you have thrown the boxes and the swings next to them as well.  Jacob, if you can tear yourself away from the disaster area I would like to address your questions that started this holocaust, and clarify my only reason for being anywhere close to it.

Jacob - 20 March 2014 06:18 PM

... These are the options I am currently evaluating.

- Restrict Toumen’s account so he can only post in the pxbots section

- Ask Toumen to leave voluntarily, see what happens

- Ban Toumen, see what happens

- Switch to a moderated-style community with clear rules that would presumably kick Toumen and other salesmen out. I have ideological issues with this that could probably be overcome, but finding the right person/team I can trust to treat everyone fairly here isn’t an easy task. Who would you choose?
- Keep this community open to any and all roulette-related discussions. Maintain the status quo.

Got any other ideas? What would you do?

I suggest you are putting the cart before the horse.  Rather than wondering how to deal with tomuen I think you/we should be wondering how to deal with tomuen’s behavior, and any similar behavior by others.  I cannot support kicking someone off the forum simply because we don’t like what he/she says.  According to the title that my browser displays on this forum’s home page the purpose of this forum is to “discuss roulette strategy, roulette systems, online roulette reviews, and more!”  Project X is a roulette system, is therefore on topic, and is therefore a legitimate topic for discussion.

I gather that the main argument for banning tomuen is that naive and gullible potential customers need to be protected from paying for something that is worthless.  IMHO that is a fool’s errand.  Someone willing to buy a product that supposedly does something that defies logic is going to buy that product despite what anybody says against it.

OK, so what to do.  Whatever rules for acceptable behavior you develop, Jacob, they must apply to everybody: tomuen, Chingy711, me…everybody.  If you are going to take some action vis-a-vis Project X then I would restrict any mention of it other than in passing to threads in the Project X Section.  (After all, isn’t that why you created the section?)  Any post outside of that section that discusses Project X should be summarily deleted regardless of the author (i.e. including authors other than tomuen).  Of necessity, then, negative posts about Project X can be made in its section.

I am perhaps uniquely qualified to pose the following question.  In what way is tomuen’s Project X different from obie1’s The Strategy in Craps Forum?  And what about Heavy, who pitches his own dice influencing forum and classes in many if not most of his posts?  What’s good for the goose should be as good for the gander.

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Posted: 25 March 2014 03:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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The Midnight Skulker - 25 March 2014 12:10 AM

Good grief!  I leave you kids alone for a weekend while I run dogs and you have not merely thrown all the sand in your sandboxes at each other, but you have thrown the boxes and the swings next to them as well.  Jacob, if you can tear yourself away from the disaster area I would like to address your questions that started this holocaust, and clarify my only reason for being anywhere close to it.

Jacob - 20 March 2014 06:18 PM

... These are the options I am currently evaluating.

- Restrict Toumen’s account so he can only post in the pxbots section

- Ask Toumen to leave voluntarily, see what happens

- Ban Toumen, see what happens

- Switch to a moderated-style community with clear rules that would presumably kick Toumen and other salesmen out. I have ideological issues with this that could probably be overcome, but finding the right person/team I can trust to treat everyone fairly here isn’t an easy task. Who would you choose?
- Keep this community open to any and all roulette-related discussions. Maintain the status quo.

Got any other ideas? What would you do?

I suggest you are putting the cart before the horse.  Rather than wondering how to deal with tomuen I think you/we should be wondering how to deal with tomuen’s behavior, and any similar behavior by others.  I cannot support kicking someone off the forum simply because we don’t like what he/she says.  According to the title that my browser displays on this forum’s home page the purpose of this forum is to “discuss roulette strategy, roulette systems, online roulette reviews, and more!”  Project X is a roulette system, is therefore on topic, and is therefore a legitimate topic for discussion.

I gather that the main argument for banning tomuen is that naive and gullible potential customers need to be protected from paying for something that is worthless.  IMHO that is a fool’s errand.  Someone willing to buy a product that supposedly does something that defies logic is going to buy that product despite what anybody says against it.

OK, so what to do.  Whatever rules for acceptable behavior you develop, Jacob, they must apply to everybody: tomuen, Chingy711, me…everybody.  If you are going to take some action vis-a-vis Project X then I would restrict any mention of it other than in passing to threads in the Project X Section.  (After all, isn’t that why you created the section?)  Any post outside of that section that discusses Project X should be summarily deleted regardless of the author (i.e. including authors other than tomuen).  Of necessity, then, negative posts about Project X can be made in its section.

I am perhaps uniquely qualified to pose the following question.  In what way is tomuen’s Project X different from obie1’s The Strategy in Craps Forum?  And what about Heavy, who pitches his own dice influencing forum and classes in many if not most of his posts?  What’s good for the goose should be as good for the gander.

Hmm, I find myself, not so much in dissagreement with you, Midnight.  But certainly I am looking at it from a different perspective. I do
not believe it is right to ban amrik either for his bot, trying to sell his bot in the aggressive way he is, I am not sure where I stand. However,
it is plain to see he has been doing this for 5 years now, saying the same things, making the same claims and starting a fresh whenever he
hits a small snag like a total bust, or catastrophic failure.  Now, unless someone reads all the posts in the PX thread and other related threads
amrik started to promote the bot, it may not be so easy to know the history.  If someone knows the history of this bot plus sales tactics, and
still chooses to buy, then that is their choice to do so.  You, for me are seeming to rally some kind of support for amrik in some of your words.

Currently, there is no warning or reasoning to be had for any new marks in amrik sights if they only read his latest posts.  Like it or not, it also
appears this bot is affiliated with this website also, along with the claims of a personal cashpoint, just £50 a month, win thousands in minutes
with my 19 step progression blah, blah, blah, it will simply prove too much temptation for some.  It is not our place to gag anyone, it is not
our place to tell anyone how they should part with their money.  That does not mean it should be condoned by silence, or left as is.  I do not
know your reasoning regards the other forum members you post (my only interest is roulette), but I see no reason why it qualifies you in any
way, maybe you can highlight?  Also, do they charge money for a “sure thing” that requires no skill?  Because that is the only issue with this silly
bot, it was tomuen himself who once said this forum had 80,000 members?  If you want your reason for why amrik is willing to try so hard, just
duping 5% of 80,000 at £50 a month every month is worth the time investment if his scam takes off.

Fact of the matter is this, he has had 4+ years of this already.  Thats 4 years more then it should have been allowed due only on the basis he
wants others money.  No one else I know is asking for money, chingy, dobblesteen, harryj all give their advice freely.  Whilst I do not agree with
them they give all that a new system player could really want already and they give it for free!  Tomuen is targeting, not those who want to beat
roulette, but those who want an easy life (they need to learn at some point), and then those who are at their wits end and struggling for what
reasons maybe unknown, if the forum itself does not give any protection to these people no one will.

If amrik was able to get his private forum running with enough members, this platform would only serve as a free advertising site.  It may bring
traffic, but it is poor quality traffic.  It is also a false economy because amriks has no other option but to be here, if that ever changed he would
be gone along with his thread.  In many ways he is worse then this “THE QUEEN v. STEVEN HOURMOUZIS SENTENCE genuinewinner.com scam”.
Atleast this scam was self supporting, and not given credence by assumed forum support, (it is and will always be the first thing most encounter
on this forum due its place on the index page and over exposure in nearly every thread).  I for one grow tired of it, arguments should be based
on progressive desire, not trying to make money by other means past roulette itself.  Maybe 50% of this forum has nothing to do with roulette,
with the only connection to roulette is the potential to run a scam under its guise. It is not a forum to be proud of and for that I am happy to be
banned if no one likes what I say!  I will always stand by my conviction on this topic, maybe I will fall on my sword willingly because as it stands
the forum is offering very little to many interested in roulette!!

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