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HOW TO OVERCOME THE HOUSE EDGE AND TURN IT INTO A PLAYER’S EDGE
Posted: 16 March 2015 04:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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what do u thnk applying some geometry in my play, in a sense that i like to play 9 numbers distance and exact opposite which be 18 numbers distance [oppositte sections] or alternatively when i see 2nd dozen reapeating 4,5 times in a row,  then i bet the zero section, the 9 no area with no 2nd doz no but i agree in roulette needs too much pattience , by the way palestis have u ever play in rhodes casino;

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Posted: 16 March 2015 04:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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there are some interesting facts like 16-19 split on the table and they re exact oppossite each other ,or 3- 23 , 1- 21 end digits oppositte on the wheel lay out , saying that i can accept roulette is a random game but with no infinity results thus can be predictable in some degree

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Posted: 16 March 2015 04:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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mogul397 - 16 March 2015 04:09 PM

I see your point.

The slowness of the real tables still bothers me. One time I was watching
a marquis at that front table. I went upstairs to the airball for a while.
(10 min?) and came down. Maybe 3-4 numbers came out. They have
one dealer raking in all these chips and sorting them and whatever.

Then the raise the min to $15. (With $200 max of course). I feel like
I’m doing battle.

Where do you live?

That’s the problem with Twin River. It is absurd to have the dealer short and stack the chips. Resulting in brutally slow spins. Plus the $15 minimum. (though they have 2 $10 roulettes week days). That’s too high considering Foxwoods and Mohegan has $5 minimum. The $200 max. is on inside numbers only. The dozen max is $2,500 and EC’s $5,000.
But eventually they will have to come down when the 3 new casinos open around Boston where I live. But for now they have no competition. That’s y they do what they want.
Then even raise the minimum if there are a lot of people in. They don’t wait for the weekend.

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Posted: 16 March 2015 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Didn’t know about the outside maximums.. (Not that I’m itching
to test them, but when you look at a progression or something that
can get out of hand, you at least have to know you could if you wanted
to).

What about airball? I thought I remember $100. Is that inside as well?
What are the outside max there? I looked REAL hard last time I was there.

I live in Franklin in case you missed it. 1/2 hour to Twin river. “Quicky”
in 2 hours if I want.  1 hour there.  But I think one of the serious sites
around here is right at Plainville.  1A.  Two exits down from me.

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Posted: 16 March 2015 04:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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The more I think about this, the concept that a tier could be
missing for 28 spins could also happen to a persons wild ass
guessing.

I thought about that with respect to a martingale. The most popular
way to think about it is to see red or black and bet the other. What
if you were just betting in the dark?  Couldn’t it be just as true that
your random selections could miss those 20-30 times?  Just a different
way of losing.

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Posted: 16 March 2015 05:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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petespin - 16 March 2015 04:11 PM

what do u thnk applying some geometry in my play, in a sense that i like to play 9 numbers distance and exact opposite which be 18 numbers distance [oppositte sections] or alternatively when i see 2nd dozen reapeating 4,5 times in a row,  then i bet the zero section, the 9 no area with no 2nd doz no but i agree in roulette needs too much pattience , by the way palestis have u ever play in rhodes casino;

If the 2nd dozen repeats several times, it leaves a 9 number section from 29-32 untouched. But I don’t think 5 times is a long sleep.  If you specify in advance how many times you will bet that 9 number section then it’s fine. If it’s missing 5 times, it will not always keep on missing more than 5 times if you bet them a few times. It’s chasing them without stopping that can be a problem.
If you are looking for group sections on the wheel , that can be bet with the least amount of chips, then 2 groups are the best.  29, 10, and 21 and their neighbors and 6-16-26 and neighbors. If you mark them on the table layout they are concentrated in a few bets with very few chips. And they are spaced evenly around 3 sections of the wheel.
Rhodes no. Just Loutraki,  Parnitha every day from 2005-2011. Patience is a must if you want to win all the time.

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Posted: 16 March 2015 05:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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palestis - 16 March 2015 05:27 PM
petespin - 16 March 2015 04:11 PM

what do u thnk applying some geometry in my play, in a sense that i like to play 9 numbers distance and exact opposite which be 18 numbers distance [oppositte sections] or alternatively when i see 2nd dozen reapeating 4,5 times in a row,  then i bet the zero section, the 9 no area with no 2nd doz no but i agree in roulette needs too much pattience , by the way palestis have u ever play in rhodes casino;

If the 2nd dozen repeats several times, it leaves a 9 number section from 29-32 untouched. But I don’t think 5 times is a long sleep.  If you specify in advance how many times you will bet that 9 number section then it’s fine. If it’s missing 5 times, it will not always keep on missing more than 5 times if you bet them a few times. It’s chasing them without stopping that can be a problem.
If you are looking for group sections on the wheel , that can be bet with the least amount of chips, then 2 groups are the best.  29, 10, and 21 and their neighbors and 6-16-26 and neighbors. If you mark them on the table layout they are concentrated in a few bets with very few chips. And they are spaced evenly around 3 sections of the wheel.
Rhodes no. Just Loutraki,  Parnitha every day from 2005-2011. Patience is a must if you want to win all the time.

Not sure if the narcodics are getting to me. Not sure what you are saying or what you
mean about “if the 2nd dozen hits, 9 number section…..” I’m confused..

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Posted: 16 March 2015 07:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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mogul397 - 16 March 2015 04:58 PM

The more I think about this, the concept that a tier could be
missing for 28 spins could also happen to a persons wild ass
guessing.

I thought about that with respect to a martingale. The most popular
way to think about it is to see red or black and bet the other. What
if you were just betting in the dark?  Couldn’t it be just as true that
your random selections could miss those 20-30 times?  Just a different
way of losing.

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There is no way with 50% chances to lose betting randomly 20 times. Not a chance. Try it. Bet B/R/O/E/H/L randomly and you will find you can’t even lose 5 times in a row.

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Posted: 16 March 2015 07:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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mogul397 - 16 March 2015 05:51 PM
palestis - 16 March 2015 05:27 PM
petespin - 16 March 2015 04:11 PM

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Not sure if the narcodics are getting to me. Not sure what you are saying or what you
mean about “if the 2nd dozen hits, 9 number section…..” I’m confused..

Actually this post was to answer one of Petepin’s questions and it had to do with the French wheel, where the numbers on the wheel are different than the American wheel. 
You don’t need to get confused. It just happens that a 9 numbers section from 29 to 32 has no 2nd dozen in it. And he was asking if it’s a good idea to play that section if the 2nd dozen hits 5 times in a row.

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Posted: 17 March 2015 09:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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palestis, thank u for your clarifications and your advices generally it will be much better if u tell me about roulette tables in parnitha,loutraki a tip or something , i only been in rhodes casino cos my brother lives there iam from crete ,  by the way are u 2nd or 3rd generation greek-american ; cheers pete

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Posted: 17 March 2015 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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mogul.ithink everything we need are on the wheel

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Posted: 17 March 2015 01:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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I’m a little confused about what everyone is talking about. 

Petespin, not sure what having everything we need on the wheel is
referring to.

palestis You said

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There is no way with 50% chances to lose betting randomly 20 times. Not a chance. Try it. Bet B/R/O/E/H/L randomly and you will find you can’t even lose 5 times in a row.

We wish that that were true. If it were, then a martingale would be a piece of cake.
What you are saying seems true and that is why a martingale seems attractive.

All I am saying is that, it doesn’t really make any difference how you build the house.
The idea.  If you have a “plan” (like betting red after 10 black) and seeing black
come in 15 more time, the odds gods can fashion the same result with you throwing
a dart.  And have it hit the opposite of whatever you guess for the next 15 spins.

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Posted: 17 March 2015 07:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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mogul397 - 17 March 2015 01:39 PM

I’m a little confused about what everyone is talking about. 

Petespin, not sure what having everything we need on the wheel is
referring to.

palestis You said

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There is no way with 50% chances to lose betting randomly 20 times. Not a chance. Try it. Bet B/R/O/E/H/L randomly and you will find you can’t even lose 5 times in a row.

We wish that that were true. If it were, then a martingale would be a piece of cake.
What you are saying seems true and that is why a martingale seems attractive.

All I am saying is that, it doesn’t really make any difference how you build the house.
The idea.  If you have a “plan” (like betting red after 10 black) and seeing black
come in 15 more time, the odds gods can fashion the same result with you throwing
a dart.  And have it hit the opposite of whatever you guess for the next 15 spins.

Next time at the twin River look out for a guy Mike. You can’t miss him. He’s the only one standing around ( plus me when I go there),  watching all 6 roulettes. 4 in the upper level and the other 2 near the West door. Walking up and down looking for situations. He lives 10 min. from there, and never misses a day.
And he plays just that. Anything over 7 in a row, he will bet the opposite. Just 3 times only. So there is no way he can lose his shirt if things continue for another 10 spins.
Well, he never loses. We run into each other many times as we both watch out basically for the same thing. Plus we have some of our own proprietary ideas that we bet when we see fit. He’s not looking to bankrupt the house.
Just a small profit every day and then to the cash register and then home. He never goes for the full Martingale scale. That’s suicide.  If he misses once he will catch it the next time. Amazing things can happen when you live around the corner from the casino provided you know what you are doing. If you ever go, you can’t miss him. He’s extremely friendly. And loves to explain how he plays.

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Posted: 17 March 2015 07:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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petespin - 17 March 2015 09:33 AM

palestis, thank u for your clarifications and your advices generally it will be much better if u tell me about roulette tables in parnitha,loutraki a tip or something , i only been in rhodes casino cos my brother lives there iam from crete ,  by the way are u 2nd or 3rd generation greek-american ; cheers pete

Rhodes is a very small casino. Loutraki is very big and has many roulettes open at any time. Easily you can find 20 + roulettes spinning in the evening. many choices and many opportunities without waiting too long.
Parnitha is also big but not as big. The tables are the same as they are in Rhodes. They don’t do anything different. I came here as a student years ago and I stayed. But I like the freedom I had in Loutraki.
No pressure to bet, and you can bet with cash chips inside even if other players play inside. Something I can not do here, and it’s a serious problem for me. Many systems I have I cannot use because of the cash chips restriction. The have $5 chips and then they go to $25. No $10 chips.
That’s not fair.

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Posted: 17 March 2015 08:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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palestis - 17 March 2015 07:40 PM
petespin - 17 March 2015 09:33 AM

palestis, thank u for your clarifications and your advices generally it will be much better if u tell me about roulette tables in parnitha,loutraki a tip or something , i only been in rhodes casino cos my brother lives there iam from crete ,  by the way are u 2nd or 3rd generation greek-american ; cheers pete

Rhodes is a very small casino. Loutraki is very big and has many roulettes open at any time. Easily you can find 20 + roulettes spinning in the evening. many choices and many opportunities without waiting too long.
Parnitha is also big but not as big. The tables are the same as they are in Rhodes. They don’t do anything different. I came here as a student years ago and I stayed. But I like the freedom I had in Loutraki.
No pressure to bet, and you can bet with cash chips inside even if other players play inside. Something I can not do here, and it’s a serious problem for me. Many systems I have I cannot use because of the cash chips restriction. The have $5 chips and then they go to $25. No $10 chips.
That’s not fair.

just put 2 of five… it makes ten. Inconvenient way, but works. I have same problem on terminals… to get right denomination per number, sometimes l need to cklick twice. . It takes more time.

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