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Posted: 11 August 2014 05:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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To Chip-hunter:
Every time a new spin come , you save it, when you have 34 spins, you divide them in Group2 (not repeated number) and Group3 (repeated number). The numbers from 0 to 37 that not appears in the 34 spins are the numbers that belongs to Group1.

If the first spin of the 34 spins id repeated means that belong to Group3, you don’t play and you discard and wait for a new spin. if the next one belongs to Group3, the same you don’t paly, discard it and wait for a new spin. If the next belongs to Group2, you should bet the numbers in Group1, Suppose that the next spin is one of Group1, that mean you win, You continue to check for play or not with your last 34 spins.
You should do it for 3 consecutive spins. If it fails in all of them. You should wait till there is a next play.

Ok thanks for explanation…

If you want a math better explanation contact me in my inbox.

You should put the demonstration in here, it could be interesting to follow your process.

First of all I have a PHD in Mathematic, I make my dissertation studying probability in short time. Statistic show that my formulas are valid. You never notice that when a number doesn’t appear for long, and when it will return to appear, it appears often!!! More take to appear, more often appear.
Anyway, there is many live casinos and auto-paly casino where you can test (dubinbet.com, castlecasino.com, ...) where you can test what I say.
I already test all my formulas and specially the one for 34 consecutive spins and it works. This is why I mention it.

Ok you got a PHD in Mathematic, that means you made several test before you declare it has 85% chance of win. May i know about the test? how many spin played have been test? Of course we only pay attention to those 3 spins that have been played… More important, did you use a progression or you test that flat bet?

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Posted: 11 August 2014 09:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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What a bunch of nit-pickers we all are!! It is obvious that Absa’s first language is not English, and that he is using a translater. Unfortunately English is such a mixture of different languages that rules of sentence structure and verb conjugation have been abandoned. We work on accepted practice rather than fixed rules. Therefor the translater rarely produces colliqual English.

    There is nothing wrong with Absa’s stategy. It is an extention of a segment strategy I gave Sergey many moons ago. And one who has followed the fall of numbers around the wheel(not the layout) will have noticed that, for a while, certain segments seem to fill up faster than others.
    Absa suggests that 34 spins(not numbers) should be tracked. The results divided into 3 groups. Those numbers that have not appeared, those that have appeared once, and those that have appeared more than once. If the 35th spin produces a number that has NOT appeared the remaining numbers that have not appeared should bet bet for a maximum of 3 times, with every expectation(85%) of getting a hit. If there were a small number of numbers in group 1 then flat bets could be used, if a large number a progression might be required.

    It has always amazed me that the members who claim their method reqires mathematical perfection should be the 1st to protest vehemently when a real Mathematician posts.

  Methinks thou dost protest too much.

    Harry

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Posted: 11 August 2014 09:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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If the 35th spin produces a number that has NOT appeared the remaining numbers that have not appeared should bet bet for a maximum of 3 times, with every expectation(85%) of getting a hit.

Well sometimes you should be a nit-picker because it seems you haven’t understood what he said… I understood it like that, track 34 spins, then if the first of the 34 spins came out only one time then you can play for 3 spins numbers in the group 1… I don’t know where you saw that we had to wait for the 35th…anyway.

There is something else that i don’t get… i can’t understand why we should pay attention to what group the first number is… What can it change if it belongs to group 2 or 3…is there any reason?

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Posted: 11 August 2014 10:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Thank you very much Harry. I appreciate it. About Chip-hunter, it’s right what you say in the first paragraph. About the second paragraph why I choose to play if the first of the 34 consecutive spins belongs to Group2 and not to play if belongs to Group3, is because if the first belongs to Group2, means that when a new spin comes and if not from Group1 in the next 3 consecutive spins, the system of 37 spin get unbalanced.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 12:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Where should I send the money to buy your system?  Is $5,000 enough?

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Posted: 11 August 2014 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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I am not selling the system. I write a Basic program to use with techbasic for IPhone and I write a special graph in Power Point to print and use it in Casino where CellPhones are not allowed. I can post the program for free. About ppt I didn’t Check if attachment is allowed.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 01:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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harryj - 11 August 2014 09:13 AM

What a bunch of nit-pickers we all are!! It is obvious that Absa’s first language is not English, and that he is using a translater. Unfortunately English is such a mixture of different languages that rules of sentence structure and verb conjugation have been abandoned. We work on accepted practice rather than fixed rules. Therefor the translater rarely produces colliqual English.

    There is nothing wrong with Absa’s stategy. It is an extention of a segment strategy I gave Sergey many moons ago. And one who has followed the fall of numbers around the wheel(not the layout) will have noticed that, for a while, certain segments seem to fill up faster than others.
    Absa suggests that 34 spins(not numbers) should be tracked. The results divided into 3 groups. Those numbers that have not appeared, those that have appeared once, and those that have appeared more than once. If the 35th spin produces a number that has NOT appeared the remaining numbers that have not appeared should bet bet for a maximum of 3 times, with every expectation(85%) of getting a hit. If there were a small number of numbers in group 1 then flat bets could be used, if a large number a progression might be required.

    It has always amazed me that the members who claim their method reqires mathematical perfection should be the 1st to protest vehemently when a real Mathematician posts.

  Methinks thou dost protest too much.

    Harry

Harrij, its not that anyone can’t get the meaning right, its just a gambler fallacy example that he promotes as winning system, without any understanding why this system is dumped from very beginning.  What is the point to chase numbers that not even best performing numbers? He states that something is due, without explaning why its due.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 01:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Attach is a Power Point Graph, you can print on A4 paper and you get 2 schema to play.
In each schema:
In session up, you have the numbers from 0 to 36 where each number is followed by two rows of cells.
In session down there is four boxes of cells where each is formed from 34 cells.
With every spin, you write the number in the session down. In the session up, you look for the number and you draw a line in the upper row of cells.
When the first box of cell is full,  you look for the first number in this box. if near to it, in the upper session there is only one line, you can begin to play with the numbers in the session up with no lines drawn. In the next spin, you cancel the first number in down session, and in the session up you draw a line near to the number in the down row of cells to cancel the number, it mean that the number return to be in the state as never been.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 01:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Follow is the Basic program to use with techBasic for iPhone:
BASE 0

LET cntPA% = 0
DIM PA% (999)
DIM OC% (36)


FOR i% = 0 TO 999
LET PA%(i%) = -1
NEXT i%


LET MarginLeft% = 20
LET MarginTop% = 20


DIM prvbtns (33) AS Label

LET prvbtnsIncrementLeft% = 25
LET prvbtnsincrementTop% = 25

FOR i% = 0 TO 33
LET l% = i% MOD 10
LET prvMoveLeft% = Graphics.width - 320 + MarginLeft% + l% * prvbtnsIncrementLeft%
LET t% = i% / 10
LET prvMoveTop% = Graphics.height - 460 + MarginTop% + t% *  prvbtnsIncrementTop%
prvbtns(i%) = Graphics.newLabel(prvMoveLeft%, prvMoveTop%, 30, 30)
prvbtns(i%).setAlignment(2)

NEXT


DIM btns (39) AS Button

LET btnsIncrementLeft% = 47
LET btnsincrementTop% = 40

btns(0) =  Graphics.newButton(Graphics.width - 320 + MarginLeft% + 5 * 47, Graphics.height - 270 + MarginTop% - 40, 30, 30)
btns(0).setTitle(STR(0))

FOR i% = 1 TO 36
LET l% = (i% - 1) MOD 6
LET MoveLeft = Graphics.width - 320 + MarginLeft% + l% * btnsIncrementLeft%
LET t% = (i% - 1) / 6
LET MoveTop = Graphics.height - 270 + MarginTop% + t% *  btnsIncrementTop%
btns(i%) = Graphics.newButton(MoveLeft, MoveTop, 30, 30)
btns(i%).setTitle(STR(i%))
NEXT


btns(37) = Graphics.newButton(Graphics.width - 367 + MarginLeft% + 5 * 47, Graphics.height - 270 + MarginTop% - 40, 30, 30)
btns(37).setTitle(”<")

btns(38) = Graphics.newButton(Graphics.width - 442 + MarginLeft% + 5 * 47, Graphics.height - 270 + MarginTop% - 40, 30, 30)
btns(38).setColor(0,0,1)
btns(38).setTitle(STR(37))


btns(39) = Graphics.newButton(Graphics.width - 320 + MarginLeft%, Graphics.height - 270 - 40 + MarginTop% - 40, 60, 30)
btns(39).setColor(0,0,1)
btns(39).setTitle(STR(0))

 

! Create a quit button.
DIM quit AS Button
quit = Graphics.newButton(Graphics.width - 320 + MarginLeft%, Graphics.height - 270 + MarginTop% - 40, 60, 30)
quit.setTitle("Quit")

! Paint the background gray.
Graphics.setColor(0.95, 0.95, 0.95)
Graphics.fillRect(0, 0, Graphics.width, Graphics.height)

! Show the graphics screen.
System.showGraphics
END

SUB touchUpInside (ctrl AS Button, time AS Double)
FOR i% = 0 TO 37
IF ctrl = btns(i%) THEN
IF i% <= 36 THEN
PA%(cntPA%) = i%
cntPA% = cntPA% + 1
ELSE
IF cntPA% > 0 THEN
    cntPA% = cntPA% - 1
    PA%(cntPA%) = -1
  END IF

END IF
btns(39).setTitle(STR(cntPA%))
FOR k% = 0 TO 36
  OC% (k%) = 0
NEXT
FOR l% = cntPA% - 1 TO cntPA% - 1 - (34 - 1) STEP - 1
IF l% >= 0 THEN
  OC%(PA%(l%)) = OC%(PA%(l%)) + 1
END IF
NEXT

LET counter% = 0

FOR p% = 0 TO 36
  IF OC%(p%) = 0 THEN
    counter% = counter% + 1
    r% = 1
    g% = 0
    b% = 0
  ELSE
    r% = 0
    g% = 0
    b% = 0
  END IF
  btns(p%).setColor(r%,g%,b%)
  btns(p%).setTitle(STR(p%))

 

NEXT
btns(38).setTitle(STR(counter%))

 


IF cntPA% <= 34 THEN
FOR j% = 0 TO 33
IF PA%(j%) <> -1 THEN

    IF OC%(PA%(j%)) = 1 THEN
      r% = 1
      g% = 0
      b% = 0
    ELSE
      r% = 0
      g% = 0
      b% = 0
    END IF

    prvbtns(j%).setColor(r%,g%,b%)

    prvbtns(j%).setText(STR(PA%(j%)))
    ELSE
    prvbtns(j%).setText(” “)
    END IF
  NEXT

 


ELSE

FOR j% = 0 TO 33


  IF OC%(PA%(cntPA% - 1 - (33 - j%))) = 1 THEN
      r% = 1
      g% = 0
      b% = 0
    ELSE
      r% = 0
      g% = 0
      b% = 0
    END IF

    prvbtns(j%).setColor(r%,g%,b%)

    prvbtns(j%).setText(STR(PA%(cntPA% - 1 - (33 - j%))))

  NEXT
END IF

END IF
NEXT
IF ctrl = quit THEN
STOP
END IF
END SUB

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Posted: 11 August 2014 02:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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To Sergiy,
Why you don’t test it instead of just attacking me. If you really found that it is not true, I can apologize to you. Anyway when I post it I was not looking for any return, I just do it as a help for the forum and I get regret after your attacks.
As for the theory behind it, I wrote a book about short-term probability and I am not publishing it in this forum.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 02:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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absabbagh51 - 11 August 2014 02:18 PM

To Sergiy,
Why you don’t test it instead of just attacking me. If you really found that it is not true, I can apologize to you. Anyway when I post it I was not looking for any return, I just do it as a help for the forum and I get regret after your attacks.
As for the theory behind it, I wrote a book about short-term probability and I am not publishing it in this forum.

l do not test it, becouse l do not belive in it. Im very busy with playing now. All my free time goes to my progects. I can provide you with 100 0000 spins resoults to test your system. If it show any profit after that, l will love to have a better look into this system. But l can tell you resoults apriory. Your system gonna loose ammount very highly correlated with HE.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 04:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Well i do not believe also that it could work (my opinion) but i can admit at least that you’re not claiming something without telling what it is about. It seems it’s something about law of third that isn’t in fact a mathematic law actually. Ok after x spins law of third will be respected, but the problem is about the elasticity of that law. As you said those two Greeks noticed that after x spins Black or Red will return to a balanced number of outcome but because of the elasticity, you could lose huge money beting on a return to balanced result of red numbers for example.

In European roulette, you cannot never see a pattern of 28 spins with no repetition on it, no matter how long you stay at the casino.

I cannot be agree with this also. I think that any serial could come out, even if it seems crazy, 37 different number could come out… it has strictly the same chance to come out than any other serial. To realize it, it’s simple, write down a serial of 37 numbers that could look “usual” and wait to see that serial on the board…

Could you post the result of 30000 flat bets in here ? i guess that you allready tried that test, this would be interesting to see about variance.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 05:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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absabbagh51,

Please don’t pretend to be a PhD mathematician.

We already went through this with another clown that was pretending to be a PhD Mathematician using chaos theory. (Martin Blakey nonsense)


“It seems as though authors of roulette systems always claim to have a degree in math, thus instantly announcing the whole thing to be a con .
Perhaps a degree in logical thinking would be more beneficial to themselves.” -From a wise poster on another forum.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Roulette is able to twirl around any mind, even the most cartesian as my uncle d say smile

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Posted: 11 August 2014 10:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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I have another method where the wait is longer but you bet only on 6 numbers and 100% one of them comes in the next spin, so you can bet the maximum. I was thinking to post it later, but I notice that you guys don’t deserve it.
Bye for ever…

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