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Posted: 11 August 2014 10:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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absabbagh51 - 11 August 2014 10:01 PM

I have another method where the wait is longer but you bet only on 6 numbers and 100% one of them comes in the next spin, so you can bet the maximum. I was thinking to post it later, but I notice that you guys don’t deserve it.
Bye for ever…

What amazes me is that someone walks into the forum, posts a system that by all common sense criteria isn’t worth anything, and everybody gets jolted. Then they rush to make comments and provide arguments and counter arguments about its merits. When if fact all they have to do is dismiss it as a joke. Like that 16 year old kid from Manila who was asking help to win back his lost $1000 in an online casino. Then after 3 posts he dropped out of sight.

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Posted: 11 August 2014 11:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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absabbagh51 - 10 August 2014 02:00 PM

If You make thousands of tests which every one consist of 111 spins and you get always a percentage of 85% coming on the next 3 consecutive spins, you cannot say that it applies to that particular trial.
I say: In European roulette, you cannot never see a pattern of 28 spins with no repetition on it, no matter how long you stay at the casino.
That mean I never expect to see every number appear in 37 spins. This will never happen. In fact in some cases a number would be so cold that never appear maybe after 500 spins.

Any number that not appear for 34 spin become belong to Group1. In fact in my example, if in the first spin fail, automatically number 10 goes from Group2 to Group1 ad if in the second spin comes number 10, it means that the algorithm succeed. Maybe many numbers goes from Group2 to Group1 and they comes and make the algorithm succeed.

Probability has born from the following: Two Greek mathematicians was betting on a coin: One bet on Head, and one on Tail. The one with the head was losing, so he get anger, and he think if there is no cheating, why should come more tails than heads.
So he calls his students and make them flip coins for 1 million time. He get the conclusion that the result in long term, there is approximately half heads and half tails, and he say that the probability to come head at infinity is the same as tail.

I agree with you that gambling is different from math. There is emotion, adrenaline, amount of money. What happen if the algorithm fail in 3 consecutive spins. Can a gambler stop and wait….

I am not” dissing” your system. I’m saying you overstate your case.Your “thousands of trials”  contain” billions “of possible results so your thousands of trials are as relevant as a pee in an ocean .There are “patterns” in EVERY series of numbers. The problem is ” can we make use of them ?” THAT is the real problem.
Good luck with your system and don’t bother with the AP guys. Their method .too. is based on “IF"s though they don’t seem to know it.

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Posted: 12 August 2014 08:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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scepticus - 11 August 2014 11:23 PM
absabbagh51 - 10 August 2014 02:00 PM

If You make thousands of tests which every one consist of 111 spins and you get always a percentage of 85% coming on the next 3 consecutive spins, you cannot say that it applies to that particular trial.
I say: In European roulette, you cannot never see a pattern of 28 spins with no repetition on it, no matter how long you stay at the casino.
That mean I never expect to see every number appear in 37 spins. This will never happen. In fact in some cases a number would be so cold that never appear maybe after 500 spins.

Any number that not appear for 34 spin become belong to Group1. In fact in my example, if in the first spin fail, automatically number 10 goes from Group2 to Group1 ad if in the second spin comes number 10, it means that the algorithm succeed. Maybe many numbers goes from Group2 to Group1 and they comes and make the algorithm succeed.

Probability has born from the following: Two Greek mathematicians was betting on a coin: One bet on Head, and one on Tail. The one with the head was losing, so he get anger, and he think if there is no cheating, why should come more tails than heads.
So he calls his students and make them flip coins for 1 million time. He get the conclusion that the result in long term, there is approximately half heads and half tails, and he say that the probability to come head at infinity is the same as tail.

I agree with you that gambling is different from math. There is emotion, adrenaline, amount of money. What happen if the algorithm fail in 3 consecutive spins. Can a gambler stop and wait….

I am not” dissing” your system. I’m saying you overstate your case.Your “thousands of trials”  contain” billions “of possible results so your thousands of trials are as relevant as a pee in an ocean .There are “patterns” in EVERY series of numbers. The problem is ” can we make use of them ?” THAT is the real problem.
Good luck with your system and don’t bother with the AP guys. Their method .too. is based on “IF"s though they don’t seem to know it.

The beauty of AP ways is that people who use them , know exactly why they winn and why they loose. And especially when. It permits to play when its good to play and go home when its not, or adjust. ..It means more control over the game and more advantage.  We do realise “if” scenarios,  we particularly look for them, study them and explore them in our advantage.  All AP ways are the direct resoult of such “if” analisys and application.  The only difference is that AP ” if” is phisics based, so can be understood and replicated in real play. Thats why it called ” AP” in the first place. 
The biggest misunderstanding l see is the fact that phisical device that is unique is analised not as phisical device , but as a conjunction of resoults of its operation ( final numbers) and the moust funny is that even resoults are not correspond to the groops of numbers that are printed on the device, but to the random groops of numbers presented on the table. Rendom groops- rendom resoults… unfortunately not mwny do actually understand it.

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Posted: 12 August 2014 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Good Luck with your AP system ,Sergy.
What I, and others, object to is your rubbishing other ideas without testing them.
Yes. IF you can do all you say then AP works but that is stating the obvious. What I am alleging is that you guys cannot do all the necessary calculations without the aid of a computer as you claim that you can do You should realise that roulette has uncertain and uncertainty cannot be calculated
We are gamblers on this forum and should all realise that we are only guessing and no one can possibly know the result of future spins .
There can be NO certainty in gambling- that is why it is called gambling ! Get It ?

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Posted: 12 August 2014 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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scepticus - 12 August 2014 09:21 AM

Good Luck with your AP system ,Sergy.
What I, and others, object to is your rubbishing other ideas without testing them.
Yes. IF you can do all you say then AP works but that is stating the obvious. What I am alleging is that you guys cannot do all the necessary calculations without the aid of a computer as you claim that you can do You should realise that roulette has uncertain and uncertainty cannot be calculated
We are gamblers on this forum and should all realise that we are only guessing and no one can possibly know the result of future spins .
There can be NO certainty in gambling- that is why it is called gambling ! Get It ?

Pffff! .......... just because you cannot fathom simple calculations doesn’t mean others cannot do it. smile

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Posted: 12 August 2014 12:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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absabbagh51 - 11 August 2014 10:01 PM

I have another method where the wait is longer but you bet only on 6 numbers and 100% one of them comes in the next spin, so you can bet the maximum. I was thinking to post it later, but I notice that you guys don’t deserve it.
Bye for ever…

Hahahahahahaha…  what a chump

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Posted: 12 August 2014 03:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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absabbagh51 - 11 August 2014 10:01 PM

I have another method where the wait is longer but you bet only on 6 numbers and 100% one of them comes in the next spin, so you can bet the maximum. I was thinking to post it later, but I notice that you guys don’t deserve it.
Bye for ever…

Indeed we do not deserve any more of your jokes.  “I say: In European roulette, you cannot never see a pattern of 28 spins with no repetition on it, no matter how long you stay at the casino.”  So something that can happen will not ever happen.  Right. LOL

VB Meister - 11 August 2014 01:55 AM

... I am a fighter pilot, leader of the New World Order, I own a 100 islands, I own a couple of airlines, I own 200 oil rigs, I am the king of Wall Street to name a few, all after I became a spinal surgeon, while owning and running 50 franchise supermarkets.

I hereby nominate VB Meister for the title of World’s Most Interesting Roulette Player.  We have a similar titleholder over in the Craps Forum.  You might be interested in taking a look at the applicable threads.  To call him multi-talented is an insult of the highest order.

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/diceprofits-com-discussion-thread.4122/page-2#post-34606
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/the-worlds-most-interesting-craps-player.4214/

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Posted: 12 August 2014 04:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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The Midnight Skulker - 12 August 2014 03:14 PM
absabbagh51 - 11 August 2014 10:01 PM

I have another method where the wait is longer but you bet only on 6 numbers and 100% one of them comes in the next spin, so you can bet the maximum. I was thinking to post it later, but I notice that you guys don’t deserve it.
Bye for ever…

Indeed we do not deserve any more of your jokes.  “I say: In European roulette, you cannot never see a pattern of 28 spins with no repetition on it, no matter how long you stay at the casino.”  So something that can happen will not ever happen.  Right. LOL

VB Meister - 11 August 2014 01:55 AM

... I am a fighter pilot, leader of the New World Order, I own a 100 islands, I own a couple of airlines, I own 200 oil rigs, I am the king of Wall Street to name a few, all after I became a spinal surgeon, while owning and running 50 franchise supermarkets.

I hereby nominate VB Meister for the title of World’s Most Interesting Roulette Player.  We have a similar titleholder over in the Craps Forum.  You might be interested in taking a look at the applicable threads.  To call him multi-talented is an insult of the highest order.

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/diceprofits-com-discussion-thread.4122/page-2#post-34606
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/the-worlds-most-interesting-craps-player.4214/

I second that nomination.

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Posted: 12 August 2014 06:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Interesting enough. .. l spottet that people who beat roulette infact are interesting. You may be shure that him, or anyone else who can actually beat the game, are multi talented.  If you can achieve perfection in something,  achive perfection in anythin else becomes just a matter of dedication. Underlying principles are the same. wink.

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Posted: 12 August 2014 06:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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sergiy - 12 August 2014 06:00 PM

Interesting enough. .. l spottet that people who beat roulette infact are interesting. You may be shure that him, or anyone else who can actually beat the game, are multi talented.  If you can achieve perfection in something,  achive perfection in anythin else becomes just a matter of dedication. Underlying principles are the same. wink.

Definitely interesting.
So someone who excels in sport can also excel in physics- or brain surgery - or…... ?
So the AP players here are capable of being brain surgeons because they claim to beat roulette ?

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Posted: 12 August 2014 07:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Not nessesary. .  But l belive that to become a brain surgeon one needs to dedicate himself with the same atention as to beat roulette. To achieve anythng in this world, dedication is needed…would it be sport or brain surgery or beating roulette. Devil is in detail.

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Posted: 13 August 2014 11:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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scepticus - 12 August 2014 04:33 PM
The Midnight Skulker - 12 August 2014 03:14 PM
absabbagh51 - 11 August 2014 10:01 PM

I have another method where the wait is longer but you bet only on 6 numbers and 100% one of them comes in the next spin, so you can bet the maximum. I was thinking to post it later, but I notice that you guys don’t deserve it.
Bye for ever…

Indeed we do not deserve any more of your jokes.  “I say: In European roulette, you cannot never see a pattern of 28 spins with no repetition on it, no matter how long you stay at the casino.”  So something that can happen will not ever happen.  Right. LOL

VB Meister - 11 August 2014 01:55 AM

... I am a fighter pilot, leader of the New World Order, I own a 100 islands, I own a couple of airlines, I own 200 oil rigs, I am the king of Wall Street to name a few, all after I became a spinal surgeon, while owning and running 50 franchise supermarkets.

I hereby nominate VB Meister for the title of World’s Most Interesting Roulette Player.  We have a similar titleholder over in the Craps Forum.  You might be interested in taking a look at the applicable threads.  To call him multi-talented is an insult of the highest order.

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/diceprofits-com-discussion-thread.4122/page-2#post-34606
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/the-worlds-most-interesting-craps-player.4214/

I second that nomination.

I forgot to mention that I also had the title of Word Champion surfing. That was still when I was rated most handsome man alive by just about all the mainstream mags. I am alot older now so I guess I must be about 3rd now…..

Did I mention I had a 12 inch c*ck? smile

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Posted: 14 August 2014 12:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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VB Meister - 13 August 2014 11:39 PM

Did I mention I had a 12 inch c*ck? smile

Not that I recall, but I assume modesty prevented you from…um…bringing it up before.

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Posted: 14 August 2014 03:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Interesting enough. .. l spottet that people who beat roulette infact are interesting. You may be shure that him, or anyone else who can actually beat the game, are multi talented.  If you can achieve perfection in something,  achive perfection in anythin else becomes just a matter of dedication. Underlying principles are the same

So does it means all those people who beat the roulette with math could sell miracle products on markets??? Maybe the best of them could make a one man show! smile

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Posted: 14 August 2014 06:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Anonsment of ” magic product on market” !!!! I, sergiy, gonna teach anyone willing to work hard to lern how to beat roulette in exchange of working together to the purposes of beating roulette. Im in GB. Product is hott!!! It cost only you dedication and time, no monetary value is evolved.  Thats why is magic. Instead of costing you money, it can bring you solid income.
  About ” one man show” ... l did one yesterday,  playing vb with 160% of advantage wink... so yes we can if you ask me or barack Obama!

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