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Posted: 03 May 2015 12:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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which type of bias are we talking about?

VB?

or

more static biased number play?

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Posted: 03 May 2015 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Houston - 03 May 2015 12:56 PM

which type of bias are we talking about?

VB?

or

more static biased number play?

VB - you don’t need prior numbers.
Static numbers - You don’t need to track the wheel ..
So just where am I wrong ?
And you claim to use bias , I do not.

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Posted: 03 May 2015 09:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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scepticus - 03 May 2015 12:01 PM
sergiy - 03 May 2015 11:56 AM
scepticus - 03 May 2015 11:01 AM
sergiy - 03 May 2015 09:36 AM
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Chip-hunter - 03 May 2015 09:14 AM

The ” certainty ” in Probability Theory arises when it is deemed that the probability is so small that it is allocated a zero. This does NOT mean that it is impossible for it to occur - only that it is highly unlikely to occur.

Here it is the same, it only worth in the case you say it’s going to happen right now.

For example a serie of 10 blacks have 1/1024 to occur. It worths if you say “ok now ten black are coming”, and you can’t deny that anyway the next following 10 spins that have also 1/1024 will occur.

In other words ” anything can happen ” ?

Yes. On roulette game ” anything can happen” wich not aler basic probability of that event to happer. If you bet rendom groops, like outside chances for exemple.  Means previous spins have no affect in this case. But if you start to predict events with a method based on phisics,  you may limit degrees of freedom of system ( ball / wheel dealler). In this case you deal with distances ball may make, so its not that random anymore. You still play ” random ” game when predict,  but you play it with same pay off on smaller sector. Example would be 27 numbers instead of 37 in 90% of cases.  Basically , eliminating 10 pokets from the game you don’t care much about zero or hous edge anymore.

so just where in your AP do you use your calculations of probability ?You guys previously said that you calculated Standard Deviations on a number of your parameters .so tell me where you actually use these .

Sometimes l wonder, do you really read what l have written? On distances ball makes from some point in the spin till the end.

So you don’t use Standard Deviations then ?

Scepticus,  SD is an indicator of how far from expected ( middle value) some position is located ( in any scatter/ destribution. . Ets. ).  For example,  in roulette game anything inside 3 sd is considered normall fluctuations wich are expected to happen in some moument.
To be shure that your bias is real or your prediction is good, you need to break 3.5 sd . Itself sd is used in data analisys.  There is no need to use it at the table. Its a statistics tool, not roulette player’s during play.
We hoever need it to know if data on wich we base our play showing real phenomena and not casual statistical fluctuation.

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Posted: 03 May 2015 10:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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VB - you don’t need prior numbers.-Scepticus

Actually I do.  Just not the kind that you’re use to collecting.

Static numbers - You don’t need to track the wheel ..-Scepticus

I do, so that I know the location of the best numbers based on the playing conditions.

So just where am I wrong ?-Scepticus

When you assumed that you knew a lot about how to beat the wheel.

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Posted: 04 May 2015 06:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Many talks that mathematick cant beat wheel , that can beat only physicks, but after that use mathematick as only weapon and totaly foregot about physick keep it simply to determine wheel speed or ball speed..
Others use some statistical manuvers and simply mathematically gets good results, by betting in some situattions or by betting more in some special situattions like in Black Jack.
Firsts lough from them and talk that in long distance theese seconds will loss earlier or later. Yes many of them loss maybe even 99% but that 1% is 100 times more than totall amount of theese firsts which use VB and win because it.So they see that.

I can say mine opinnion - bouth sides are partialy right. One with long job can achieve very secury situattions in game . Other achieve not so secury situattion, but they all make much faster and achieve all much faster.

And main part of mine opinnion - is that are two groups of players at least that think VB oriented players and system oriented players. But really are at least one more group which reach what have bouth first groups - security and fast way to acgieve what they want…..

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Posted: 04 May 2015 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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- The average waiting time to bet on 1 table is (15-20 min), depends on how much tables you play.
- On 200 spins you can play/bet around 10 times (per table), whit MMG 2 around 20 times (per table).
- MMG 1 has a average unit gain of 150 units (in 30 days), MMG 2 has a gain of 300 units (in 30 day).
- This system is strictly mathematical, there is no guessing involved.  MMG is vary important to fully understand and learn how it works, because some of my customers didn’t understand when they should or should’t bet on series.
- The average time to fully understand the MMG 1 is 7 days (we will be in touch by e-mail or even better Skype so that we can send you additional examples) so you can learn it faster and of course more accurate.
- MMG 1 gives base game modes to verify the functionality of the model but in order that you become a complete player roulette you need to master the MMG 2 , because it provides a way of seeking additional kinds of series , more characters to start searching series , recommended progression in obtaining and profit of 10 units per table ( at ≈ 200 spins ).

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Posted: 04 May 2015 10:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Houston - 03 May 2015 10:29 PM

VB - you don’t need prior numbers.-Scepticus

Actually I do.  Just not the kind that you’re use to collecting.

Static numbers - You don’t need to track the wheel ..-Scepticus

I do, so that I know the location of the best numbers based on the playing conditions.

So just where am I wrong ?-Scepticus

When you assumed that you knew a lot about how to beat the wheel.

My betting is profitable so I beat the wheel. Whether or not I continue to do so I don’t know but , unlike you guys , I don’t claim to correctly predict an uncertain future. I have asked you before . Tell me a physicist or mathematician who supports your version of beating the wheel . You persistently refuse to say and I think that is because none would.
Your continued sneering is unwarranted in a forum where people should be able to express their opinions. On several occasions you have clearly been wrong in relation to Probability Theory so cannot be regarded as an authority on it. So stop your bullshitting and behave like a human being.

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Posted: 04 May 2015 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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scepticus - 04 May 2015 10:16 AM
Houston - 03 May 2015 10:29 PM

VB - you don’t need prior numbers.-Scepticus

Actually I do.  Just not the kind that you’re use to collecting.

Static numbers - You don’t need to track the wheel ..-Scepticus

I do, so that I know the location of the best numbers based on the playing conditions.

So just where am I wrong ?-Scepticus

When you assumed that you knew a lot about how to beat the wheel.

My betting is profitable so I beat the wheel. Whether or not I continue to do so I don’t know but , unlike you guys , I don’t claim to correctly predict an uncertain future. I have asked you before . Tell me a physicist or mathematician who supports your version of beating the wheel . You persistently refuse to say and I think that is because none would.
Your continued sneering is unwarranted in a forum where people should be able to express their opinions. On several occasions you have clearly been wrong in relation to Probability Theory so cannot be regarded as an authority on it. So stop your bullshitting and behave like a human being.

Do you find people answering your qwestions ” unhuman”. Or answers themselves alienate you? He just answered your qwestions and on my opinion he did it right to the point. Becides that, how you can determine proficiency of somebody about a subject you are ignorant yourself? What is the point to twist words of others? And the last qwestion. .  Im just curious,  really, how you can ” beat the wheel” , if you don’t even bother to look to it?
Scepticus,  really, buy the book of Uspensky ” introduction to the mathematical probability” and many of your qwestions will be answered there. Its not easy reading,  but rewarding ..

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Posted: 07 May 2015 05:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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My father sad that whit MMG Master player has a 8% edge advantage over casino.

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Posted: 07 May 2015 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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What does your mom say?

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Posted: 08 May 2015 05:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Houston - 07 May 2015 10:53 AM

What does your mom say?

Dont be rude idiot.

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Posted: 08 May 2015 07:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Filles - 08 May 2015 05:17 AM
Houston - 07 May 2015 10:53 AM

What does your mom say?

Dont be rude idiot.

Im more curios what your mom says as well…

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Posted: 08 May 2015 08:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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sergiy - 08 May 2015 07:54 AM
Filles - 08 May 2015 05:17 AM
Houston - 07 May 2015 10:53 AM

What does your mom say?

Dont be rude idiot.

Im more curios what your mom says as well…

Hahaha F off! smile

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Posted: 09 May 2015 12:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Filles - 08 May 2015 08:13 PM
sergiy - 08 May 2015 07:54 AM
Filles - 08 May 2015 05:17 AM
Houston - 07 May 2015 10:53 AM

What does your mom say?

Dont be rude idiot.

Im more curios what your mom says as well…

Hahaha F off! smile

Oh… is that what your mom says….. she has a foul mouth. smile

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Posted: 09 May 2015 06:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Or he should try to convince cousins, nephews, uncles ... Los Filles-ayos!!! Why not?

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