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Posted: 03 October 2015 03:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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I have moved to Playtech live roulettes Speed Roulette like it because it fast spins game rounds good because my system based tracking numbers and Artemis Rouletteand Aphrodite Roulette and Vesta Roulette all those roulette same kind of wooden wheel and bet limits can choice single straight number 0,10-15 or 1-50 or 2-100 or 5-300 or 7-400 those limits are some wierd would be nice if there were 0,10-400 i have not visit all casinos which use playtech software live roulette maybe they are not same bet min max limits every online casino

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Posted: 03 October 2015 05:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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pauli1976 - 03 October 2015 03:50 PM

I have moved to Playtech live roulettes Speed Roulette like it because it fast spins game rounds good because my system based tracking numbers and Artemis Rouletteand Aphrodite Roulette and Vesta Roulette all those roulette same kind of wooden wheel and bet limits can choice single straight number 0,10-15 or 1-50 or 2-100 or 5-300 or 7-400 those limits are some wierd would be nive if there were 0,10-400 i have visit all casinos which use playtech software live roulette maybe they are not same bet min max limits every online casino

Do you have by any chance any script to alter units value on playtech?  For example on imercive they have 0.5 , 5, 10…ets
Would be nice to have 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2…ets.

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Posted: 04 October 2015 04:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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sergiy - 03 October 2015 05:45 PM
pauli1976 - 03 October 2015 03:50 PM

I have moved to Playtech live roulettes Speed Roulette like it because it fast spins game rounds good because my system based tracking numbers and Artemis Rouletteand Aphrodite Roulette and Vesta Roulette all those roulette same kind of wooden wheel and bet limits can choice single straight number 0,10-15 or 1-50 or 2-100 or 5-300 or 7-400 those limits are some wierd would be nive if there were 0,10-400 i have visit all casinos which use playtech software live roulette maybe they are not same bet min max limits every online casino

Do you have by any chance any script to alter units value on playtech?  For example on imercive they have 0.5 , 5, 10…ets
Would be nice to have 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2…ets.

No, the units value are decided by the server, not the client.

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Posted: 04 October 2015 06:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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betmate - 04 October 2015 04:39 AM
sergiy - 03 October 2015 05:45 PM
pauli1976 - 03 October 2015 03:50 PM

I have moved to Playtech live roulettes Speed Roulette like it because it fast spins game rounds good because my system based tracking numbers and Artemis Rouletteand Aphrodite Roulette and Vesta Roulette all those roulette same kind of wooden wheel and bet limits can choice single straight number 0,10-15 or 1-50 or 2-100 or 5-300 or 7-400 those limits are some wierd would be nive if there were 0,10-400 i have visit all casinos which use playtech software live roulette maybe they are not same bet min max limits every online casino

Do you have by any chance any script to alter units value on playtech?  For example on imercive they have 0.5 , 5, 10…ets
Would be nice to have 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2…ets.

No, the units value are decided by the server, not the client.

Technically yes. But practically it’s located as an option in your brouser ( buttons to be recognised by server). What these buttons do is just to send signal to the server.
If you look communication between your brouser and server, it comes at form of value per number. It just show how many units are per number, split. .ets.
If we make separate program that gonna send same kind of signal, expressing our clicks as neibor bets with predetermined amount of minimum unit per number… it could work.
Program could treat every click as 3 kicks for example, if we choose 3 minimum units as our minimum chip. So it would place 3 minimum chips where otherwise would be only one.
Hope it’s understandable.

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Posted: 04 October 2015 06:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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@ betmate. 
I sou atachment you sent me. So far looking good.
Only problem l forsee is when origin point is the same or very near of end point ( one number difference). We need to mark it somehow. Curved arrow would be perfect solution l gess.

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Posted: 04 October 2015 07:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Hello Betmate - i can see you are from Sweden.
Nice software.

Cheers

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Posted: 04 October 2015 07:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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AP2012 - 04 October 2015 07:20 AM

Hello Betmate - i can see you are from Sweden.
Nice software.

Cheers

From all roulette software makers this one is most promising. Clear example of the case when someone doing something for himself and it proves to be useful for others.
@ betmate, please, take seriously chart l asked you to do. If you manage to do it, l will explain to you why it’s needed,  so you gonna end up of using it yourself a lot wink. It’s a way to the killer edge, wich is simply unreasonable and unexpected using conventional upproach.

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Posted: 04 October 2015 09:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Well Betmate based on Paul rrsys system its just help count pockets wheel speed and dealer throw speed options Are extra things it but in Real Game its quite hard figure out wheel speed and dealer ball throw speed because There has liittle slag in video its not Real time and There has no information values on betmate dealers ball throw speed and wheel speed

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Posted: 05 October 2015 03:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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pauli1976 - 04 October 2015 09:27 PM

Well Betmate based on Paul rrsys system its just help count pockets wheel speed and dealer throw speed options Are extra things it but in Real Game its quite hard figure out wheel speed and dealer ball throw speed because There has liittle slag in video its not Real time and There has no information values on betmate dealers ball throw speed and wheel speed

For “initial ball speed” you can listen for a ball. There is enough time to take your vb reading as well. Rotor is a bit more complicated… On imersive they have rrs, wich stands for random rotor speed device. It alters rotor speed during a trial. Video is OK. 
You could use bet mate app, is not bad. Just run it for one rotor speed only. Problem is that even vb reading has little correlation with outcome. You need to calculate posible positions of rotor at the end of spin with posible ball behaviour.  It gonna be let say up to 6 posible variants( sometimes more). Then choose these that are more likely to happen, to beat this wheel. Wheel bias as he’ll,  but when they change the ball all the time and rotor makes it difficult to predict, better choose wheel that doesn’t have these problems.
I have not seen many consistent winners there, these l have seen , have been banned or have desisted to play this wheel.

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Posted: 05 October 2015 08:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Well betmate is just dealers signature system So no thing new but if casinos can change rotor speed every spin Which dealer make then dealers signature or Paul’s rrsys classic document booklet system or betmate Are then powerless and not work so Well just bring loses and lucky wins as we can see betmate YouTube channel live games footage he uses also corner bets around single numbers So not just play single 9 numbers

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Posted: 05 October 2015 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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pauli1976 - 05 October 2015 08:10 AM

Well betmate is just dealers signature system So no thing new but if casinos can change rotor speed every spin Which dealer make then dealers signature or Paul’s rrsys classic document booklet system or betmate Are then powerless and not work so Well just bring loses and lucky wins as we can see betmate YouTube channel live games footage he uses also corner bets around single numbers So not just play single 9 numbers

The thing is that no one will openly speak about of what works for them personaly. Probably it’s only me and couple more guys on Internet that belive in shearing. Others just wanna keep it for themself’s.
Paul system is very good. It’s not ” only ds”, he gives super important consept that many even consistent winners do neglect. Then they scratch their head and tell they are ” fighting with a ball jump”. He puts atention on dealer. Dealer is the key to beat damn thing, many do not understand it. To elminate dealer interference we need to look very closely for what dealer is doing, where from he spins the ball and how.  It’s important not only to ds, but vb and bias as well.
If you look for normal scattergram ( prediction- outcome), you will see almost no pick. For example, from prediction point you expect right diamond to be hitted,  but if diamond is wrong, you are off by half wheel, if diamond is right, but spin is different, ball may hit diamond on the top and stop only God knows where… ets. It may produce zone of up to 70 pokets distanced from your prediction if you look linearly. Dispersion is simply too huge to win and ball can stop virtually anywhere. To limit dispersion, dealer is the key, as Paul pointed. He has higher check to win with ds then many vb players l know. Obviously vb helps , but it is just to have some stable reference into the spin. Vb itself is not ultimate prediction medium, needs more filters to keep prediction accuracy.
About rotor… stay avay from rrs be for you can not win on normal wheels. When you can beat non rrs , you may try devise a method for these as well….

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Posted: 05 October 2015 09:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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On basic level of understanding ... there are 37 pokets where ball may stop. We need to elminate efficiently some pokets out of equation in order to have advantage. If we can elminate only one poket every spin, we are playing equal game. If we elminate 5, we are better 4 times then casino itself.
There is rool of 17 proposed by thorp ( eduard one, who fucked black jack game for everyone). It states that our prediction has to have less then 17 pokets of error to produce advantage. This rool was established to old kind of wheels ( ball didn’t jump much). In newer low profile wheels we need higher accuracy. However, newer types of wheel is subject to wear and tear… it becomes bias qweak. In fact l have never seen non biased wheel. Problem is that bias is of dinamic nature ( due to changes ). These changes are… dealer induced, weather induced. Too much changes in fact. To elminate dealer ones we use vb and ds skills. But we left to suck with weather ones… nothing to do about it, just need to pay attention. 
We can not play pure bias anymore, we can not play pure vb, not ds either. Need to use all good what these methods have on offer in order to be winning player.
It suck,  but it’s reality. There is no long run for predictive player, need to recognise profitable situation at the moment and explore current trend. Good news are that it’s a way for much higher edge, that otherwise would be imposible. So any mistakes are not that costly.
For example in my personal case l have allowance of 18 pokets mistake each side and l still make money. Sounds rediculos, but it’s true.

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Posted: 11 October 2015 04:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Roulette RRSYS (Classic)DoCuMentation SysTem Risky Not Work Good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiumHaZ_FQI

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Posted: 11 October 2015 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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I’m in the middle of recerching way to play simple game to upply and still have an edge.
Every reasonable contributor will have a discount to buy final version of this way of play. It looks more as system then actually AP ways, but has physical background.
To contribute need to collect results of roulette wheel in order as they come up. ( stream). Need to collect it personaly,  marking direction of spin for every trial. Wheels non rrs please. As long as it’s same wheel and results are collected in person it should be OK.  Please mark as well when new dealer comes. Separate sessions as well. Results can be submitted via pm.

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Posted: 13 October 2015 08:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Many forget that in the real world you can only play one or two rotor speeds because we have multi drop zone.
Betmate signature does not include that parameter, so the result should be random.

In real life you will see that scatter overlaps manfiest with some rotor speeds - not all.
Today we face 2 and 3 pin games.

I know how to measuring both ball/rotor speed with advance wheel signature - but does does not work with online casino.
Because of NMB and bad video quality.

When i play VB in my local casino with my favorite wheel - then i play one rotor speed only where i know how the scatteroverlap behave.
I have small edge - because i am fighting with wider scatter patterns that i narrow down using a specific skill.

Today i don’t think is worth it - to spend money on visual ballistic material.
I know MastersRoulette is selling a advance solution for 1K and will teach how to explore 3 pin game and narrow down wider scatter patterns.

But is difficult today, because all ways you estimate ball is worthless, i know 6 to 8 ways to estimate the ball and only one method can predict 10 laps before drop with VB.
Then other problems comes with rotor speed as ball travel lenght is greater and have to travel more.
So rotor speed gets more sensetive and ball duration might shift with 50 ms in time.
This is due casino say NMB at 6 to 7 laps before drop.

So i start to look more and more at solutions where i can estimate ball/rotor more early and they the paramters change from VB to Wheel signature where you aim for bias signature or pattern recogniction.

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