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Posted: 20 January 2011 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Hi,
i like to warn others for the following.
After a long search and different systems i tried the ‘rouletteflaw’ system. http://rouletteflaw.com
I waited 7 turns for no M and started betting on M. See pic what happend http://tinypic.com/r/xtxk4/7
Also at other casino’s and roulettemachines i had the same thing. The longest run took 34 spins before my l,m,h came up.

Also be carefull for most online roulette’s….they aren’t fair and random.
Most of us have seen 10 or 20 black/red in a row. Most of us have seen unlikely rows like 5,5,13,13,36,5,5,13,13.
But look at what i had to face.  http://tinypic.com/r/11iehs6/7
Before the bottom 22 there was also a 22…..i thought wat are the odds of 22 falling 3 times in a row?...but some rolls later i had 22 drop 7 times in 14 rolls. So tell me…is this random? Or proof that those casino’s cheat on their roulettes?
Just wanted to warn others.

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Posted: 21 January 2011 10:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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maybe you should of bet on 22 lol

who knows

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Posted: 22 January 2011 05:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Hi Darrynf,
I don’t wanna be rude but didn’t you asked in another topic ’ why dosent anyone tell there system on here’?
Well after reading a couple of days I thought we come here to help eachother and share info….and not make ‘lol’remarks if someone is trying to help.
Like i said i just wanted to warn others…newbies who just like me are trying to find their way in roulette. And trust me i love humor, lol and rofl. But the 2 pictures in my topic are maby just pictures for you but to me it was a loss of a lot of money. And that’s not ‘lol’ to me.
I have no gain or profit from the fact i’m trying to warn other ‘newbies’. But if 1 newbie keeps his money in his pocket instead of believing that a online-roulette is random then it was worth my time and effort.
On the other hand, i’ve read a lot of your topics here and on another forum. You are one of the many that keeps telling over and over how good your system is and then don’t tell about it because you say most wouldn’t understand. How helpfull is that?
I don’t have a ‘system’ for roulette…but i do have 1 for slots that made me 8000 last year. But i surely won’t tell it on a forum were i get ‘lol’ remarks for an anwser if i’m trying to help others.
Again i don’t wanna be rude or personal Darrynf.

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Posted: 22 January 2011 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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harald - 22 January 2011 05:26 AM

Hi Darrynf,
I don’t wanna be rude but didn’t you asked in another topic ’ why dosent anyone tell there system on here’?
Well after reading a couple of days I thought we come here to help eachother and share info….and not make ‘lol’remarks if someone is trying to help.
Like i said i just wanted to warn others…newbies who just like me are trying to find their way in roulette. And trust me i love humor, lol and rofl. But the 2 pictures in my topic are maby just pictures for you but to me it was a loss of a lot of money. And that’s not ‘lol’ to me.
I have no gain or profit from the fact i’m trying to warn other ‘newbies’. But if 1 newbie keeps his money in his pocket instead of believing that a online-roulette is random then it was worth my time and effort.
On the other hand, i’ve read a lot of your topics here and on another forum. You are one of the many that keeps telling over and over how good your system is and then don’t tell about it because you say most wouldn’t understand. How helpfull is that?
I don’t have a ‘system’ for roulette…but i do have 1 for slots that made me 8000 last year. But i surely won’t tell it on a forum were i get ‘lol’ remarks for an anwser if i’m trying to help others.
Again i don’t wanna be rude or personal Darrynf.


you are right, sorry

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Posted: 22 January 2011 10:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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harald - 22 January 2011 05:26 AM

Hi Darrynf,
I don’t wanna be rude but didn’t you asked in another topic ’ why dosent anyone tell there system on here’?
Well after reading a couple of days I thought we come here to help eachother and share info….and not make ‘lol’remarks if someone is trying to help.
Like i said i just wanted to warn others…newbies who just like me are trying to find their way in roulette. And trust me i love humor, lol and rofl. But the 2 pictures in my topic are maby just pictures for you but to me it was a loss of a lot of money. And that’s not ‘lol’ to me.
I have no gain or profit from the fact i’m trying to warn other ‘newbies’. But if 1 newbie keeps his money in his pocket instead of believing that a online-roulette is random then it was worth my time and effort.
On the other hand, i’ve read a lot of your topics here and on another forum. You are one of the many that keeps telling over and over how good your system is and then don’t tell about it because you say most wouldn’t understand. How helpfull is that?
I don’t have a ‘system’ for roulette…but i do have 1 for slots that made me 8000 last year. But i surely won’t tell it on a forum were i get ‘lol’ remarks for an anwser if i’m trying to help others.
Again i don’t wanna be rude or personal Darrynf.

ok harald, not every rng is rigg, but fair enough its not a joke when you lose. I keep saying it possible to win roulette over and over and no i wont tell my system cause not everyone will understand it.
its not a fixed bet and the numbers change all the time, i also believe i said why i didnt want it on here, it dose help if you chose to believe me that its possible to beat roulette.

dosent sound like you have much of a humour, should we all cry if we lose? bottom line if you play roulette without a plan you will lose, its harsh but true (even with a plan you will more then likely lose).
in my opinoin you just done the same thing as me in saying you have a system that beats slots (calling the kettel black) and you dont want to share it cause of people making lol jokes, (i believe i said something similar why i wouldnt put it on here).

you are right its not a joke when the rng is rigg, you didnt say what casino it was?

dont take what i say to seriously, roulette is a risk no matter how you play it. if you cant handle losing money then dont play, if you have a system that works for slots then use it and dont play something you dont understand!
i dont play slots as i dont know how to beat it or even see anyway of beating it. so i dont play, when i do play i dont expect to win just for fun.
im sorry about the joke harald but roulette is a risk, i lost a session due to my fault, using my system as i was rushing it.

why i havent put it up as its complicated and the person has to decide when its best to bet, thats why it requires alot of work and concentration.
it wont work for everyone but it suits my style of play.
im not being rude when i say this but maybe you should stick to slots if it wins, why play something that you are proned to lossing?

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Posted: 22 January 2011 03:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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darrynf - 22 January 2011 10:43 AM

ok harald, not every rng is rigg, but fair enough its not a joke when you lose. I keep saying it possible to win roulette over and over and no i wont tell my system cause not everyone will understand it.

Like i said you keep saying that over and over. Why?
And is it so important to you that everyone will understand? Even the most simple things in life is not understand by everyone. So how in the world can you expect that everyone will understand your system?
Btw if you win over and over with roulette then i’m honoured that you have the time to talk to me. If i had such a system i would be under a big pile of naked women and the only thing that kept me alive was a pocket of air between Susan and Angel. 

darrynf - 22 January 2011 10:43 AM

its not a fixed bet and the numbers change all the time, i also believe i said why i didnt want it on here, it dose help if you chose to believe me that its possible to beat roulette.?

You keep giving small bits of info but what’s the point of that? If you think everyone don’t understand the whole picture then do you think people will understand it with little bits of info?

darrynf - 22 January 2011 10:43 AM

dosent sound like you have much of a humour, should we all cry if we lose? bottom line if you play roulette without a plan you will lose, its harsh but true (even with a plan you will more then likely lose).
in my opinoin you just done the same thing as me in saying you have a system that beats slots (calling the kettel black) and you dont want to share it cause of people making lol jokes, (i believe i said something similar why i wouldnt put it on here).

Then you don’t read well or my english is really bad. If it’s the last then sorry, enlish is not my native tongue. First of all i’m not comming here and tell over and over that i have a system but i won’t tell what it is. I come here to learn and hope that others can learn from me…learn from my mistakes. That’s why i started this topic….not to brag and not to ask you or others for your ‘system’.
Second i never said i have a system that can beat slots. I don’t have a system at all…it’s just an opertunity that some casino’s give. So i’m not a kettel that’s calling you black. I told i know a way to make some money of slots to make a point and to answer your question to why i’m not sharing it here.

Oh and don’t cry for my Argentina….i can handle a loss.

darrynf - 22 January 2011 10:43 AM

dont take what i say to seriously, roulette is a risk no matter how you play it. if you cant handle losing money then dont play, if you have a system that works for slots then use it and dont play something you dont understand!

Were you born on lucky number 7 on a roulette? I mean didn’t you have to learn?

darrynf - 22 January 2011 10:43 AM

why i havent put it up as its complicated and the person has to decide when its best to bet, thats why it requires alot of work and concentration.it wont work for everyone but it suits my style of play.

Then believe me i’m happy for you…no shit. Just as i’m happy for me for my slots’flaw’....more money and fun to us.
But tell me m8…why all this explaining about your system?.....i didn’t ask for your system….and i didn’t ask you why you didn’t put it up.

darrynf - 22 January 2011 10:43 AM

im not being rude when i say this but maybe you should stick to slots if it wins, why play something that you are proned to lossing?


Because i’m running out of options….i said i don’t have a system or anything that i can use over and over again.
That’s why i’m snooping around to find other things…..like roulette. First i’ve tried some blackjack things but i don’t think online bj is random either…to many non random things happend. Besides i have ADD and get bored quick…so staring at some card’s for hours and hours for patterns etc doesn’t do it for me.
So next i take a look at roulette…and i smell that there’s some money to be made. My start with online roulette has cost me money…but that’s no problem…comes with the game…...and small luck for me is that my start with roulettemachine’s here in Holland that does work random does make me some money. On those machine’s and on real live roulette i never ever see things that do happen on rng’s.
All in all i hope you understand that i’m not here for crying over lost money….i just don’t like a casino that takes my money by cheating. And if number 22 comes up 7 times in 14 spins then that is cheating. And i’m going to believe it’s cheating till i have proof otherwise. And again that’s not the only strange thing…at different casino’s same strange things happend playing online roulette….no matter what ‘system’ i use i always do well in the beginning…and then all of a sudden i hit a wall and loose…no matter how safe or random i played and start playing after i hit the wall.

One time after i lost 3 times in a row i said to myself crap here we go again. So i started to do crazy small bets just to see what happens. So in a row i betted 5 times red…5 black drops…then i betted 5 times black….5 red drops…then i betted 7 times red….7 times black drops….then i betted 7 times black…4 red, 0 and 2 red drops….please don’t tell me that’s a random pick from a honost generator?

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Posted: 22 January 2011 04:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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i honestly cant be botherd trying to argue with you but you have made some valid points.

try playing at bet365, they are very good and fare, use uropean casinos as most of them have to be very strict by the gaming board.

I will say this again, its psossible to beat roulette (not every spin, but quit when you are ahead.

harald you will lose cause you have no idea about roulette, i never said i would be rich just realistic, earn some money and leave.

it took me proberly about 3 months of studying roulette, so i have a very good understanding of it. if i was you i would study it more as you wont find a quick fix in roulette.
it only takes about 5 mins to write on here and im not always online gambling. i prefere not to bet with the money i win from a casino.
goodluck with your game as you will need it

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Posted: 22 January 2011 04:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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….no matter what ‘system’ i use i always do well in the beginning…and then all of a sudden i hit a wall and loose…no matter how safe or random i played and start playing after i hit the wall.


every system will fail if you play long sessions, quit while you are a head, how do we know when to quit. good question, it will be different for most people but the common one is when you hit a percentage of your bankroll (i think the commin is 20%, i play by how many spins)

i believe you in rng isnt as random, but the casino you were playing at dose sound like it was cheating, i havent experience that. half of the battle is picking the right casino

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Posted: 22 January 2011 06:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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i deleted it

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Posted: 23 January 2011 06:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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darrynf - 22 January 2011 04:11 PM

i honestly cant be botherd trying to argue with you but you have made some valid points.

try playing at bet365, they are very good and fare, use uropean casinos as most of them have to be very strict by the gaming board.

I will say this again, its psossible to beat roulette (not every spin, but quit when you are ahead.

harald you will lose cause you have no idea about roulette, i never said i would be rich just realistic, earn some money and leave.

it took me proberly about 3 months of studying roulette, so i have a very good understanding of it. if i was you i would study it more as you wont find a quick fix in roulette.
it only takes about 5 mins to write on here and im not always online gambling. i prefere not to bet with the money i win from a casino.
goodluck with your game as you will need it

First of all i’m glad you found something in 3 months what others haven’t found in 10 years or more.
Second how in the world can you tell me i don’t have any idea about roulette?...can you tell that from a topic what i use to warn others?

Casino’s like bet365 and other european/englisch casino’s don’t allow players from Holland….although we have in Holland hookers and coffeeshops all over the place they are very tight about gambling…no not for good of the public..but for them…the only real casino’s here are owned by the goverment….and Holland is just like America very very hypocrit.

Just like you i don’t have time for this…we both not getting anything out of it…again i just wanted to warn others…and if your way of helping is telling over and over (even if people don’t care and don’t ask about it) you have a working system but won’t talk about it then i’m sure most people know who does know something about roulette and who is not.

And my tip?.....please read more carefull and stop putting your words in other peoples mouths…you say things about me that aren’t true….and i’m not the only one that is telling you that.
And Darrynf…...what do you think people gain more from?....warnings for mistakes or hearing over and over you have a system but you won’t tell because they are to dumb to understand? Why are you here? To help others?....or…..?
Again i don’t wanna be rude or attack you or anything….and like i said we both have better thing to do so this was my last reaction on this….i came here to warn other for my mistakes in the hope they can gain something from it…that’s all.

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Posted: 23 January 2011 03:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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sorry mate,

I just read your first post, you are right i did miss read it. if its any consilation i agree with what you are saying.

maybe try golden palace, i played there a couple of times, they seem ok and i think they will let you play.
i didnt see any cheating there but i didnt win either as i was new.

sorry about putting words into your mouth as i did not read properly, i was just trying to say you can beat roulette with a good system and implementing money management and short sessions.

i dont recommend waiting for a dozen to not hit so many times as they can go higher then your progression can. if i were to do that then i would chose a dozen at the start and start a progression for the single dozen, in most cases it will hit the 3 dozens straight away, then stop after a win. playing too longer sessions will increase the chance of losing (if i was being totaly honest i would leave after the first win).

i hope that helps, you might have to bet bigger to get back more money.

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Posted: 24 January 2011 05:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Whether RNG is crooked or not it just doesn’t matter. As with real roulette RNG is a negative expectancy game. There are no ball and no wheel. It’s not roulette. Stay away from RNG.

There is no system that can beat roulette or RNG. FACT!

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Posted: 27 January 2011 07:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Hi Herald

What happened to you with the massive repeats is not unusual.  As I mentioned in a previous post Las Vegas bricks and mortar casinos have the same thing happen.  It is not the casino cheating simply something that happens more often than you would think. 
Where you had 22 repeat so often is when you should have cleaned up.  The main rule of beating roulette I learned 20 years ago is NEVER BET AGAINST THE WHEEL!!! Bet with the wheel. 

Now don’t get me wrong there are many other factors involved that I have spent the last 20 years refining and I certainly wouldn’t give away or even sell for thousands of dollars.  I have spent massive amounts of time recording numbers online and in B&M casinos developing my strategy but it all began with the highlighted sentence above.

So Herald do some research of your own using the above principle and don’t get conned into buying a worthless system, develop patience and bet within your means.
Cheers
Dave

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Posted: 28 January 2011 05:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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darrynf - 23 January 2011 03:12 PM

sorry mate,

I just read your first post, you are right i did miss read it. if its any consilation i agree with what you are saying.

maybe try golden palace, i played there a couple of times, they seem ok and i think they will let you play.
i didnt see any cheating there but i didnt win either as i was new.

sorry about putting words into your mouth as i did not read properly, i was just trying to say you can beat roulette with a good system and implementing money management and short sessions.

i dont recommend waiting for a dozen to not hit so many times as they can go higher then your progression can. if i were to do that then i would chose a dozen at the start and start a progression for the single dozen, in most cases it will hit the 3 dozens straight away, then stop after a win. playing too longer sessions will increase the chance of losing (if i was being totaly honest i would leave after the first win).

i hope that helps, you might have to bet bigger to get back more money.

Thanks for admitting darrynf…takes a man to do that.
I’ve tried a lot of things by now. Also “hit and run”....like spin the wheel 3 times, win 5 euro and leave till the next day. But the next day i play it took 10 euro. So i quit and go the next day etc etc. I did this at 5 different casino with 5 different styles of playing. And i also mixed styles from day to day. Every single casino i won 5 euro at the first day. After that every day i lost and lost….sometimes i won 5 euro and quit till the next day…but after a couple of days i lost all. It was only 5 times 25euro so no harm done. But again i can show you printscreens of things that i, and others, never seen at a real casino.

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Posted: 28 January 2011 05:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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VB Meister - 24 January 2011 05:10 AM

Whether RNG is crooked or not it just doesn’t matter. As with real roulette RNG is a negative expectancy game. There are no ball and no wheel. It’s not roulette. Stay away from RNG.

There is no system that can beat roulette or RNG. FACT!

Well if it was crooked in a typical ‘same’ way then maby you can take advantage of it…but till now i think rng is a computerprogram that cant be beaten…at least not by me. And to be honost i’m not looking for a way to beat it…just a way to get some advantage.

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Posted: 28 January 2011 05:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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tiki101 - 27 January 2011 07:54 PM

Hi Herald
What happened to you with the massive repeats is not unusual.  As I mentioned in a previous post Las Vegas bricks and mortar casinos have the same thing happen.  It is not the casino cheating simply something that happens more often than you would think. 
Where you had 22 repeat so often is when you should have cleaned up. 

Problem is at real casino’s i never seen those things. I asked a lot of other players and also they never seen it at a roulette with a real wheel and ball. I get the same feeling from playing a rng as with a slot. No matter what you do there’s a time you win and a time you loose.

Another example….for fun i played with 10cent on every number but 16…just to see what happend…..in 10 spins 16 comes up 4 times….then i played all numbers but 2…and yes in 10 spins 2 comes up 3 times….then i played all numbers but 23….and yes 23 comes up 4 times in 10 spins…and then i played all but 2 again….2 drops 2 times in 10 spins.
So i start playing 10 cent on 1 number…first 16, then 2 then 23….not 1 win for 30 spins….after that i played 10 cents on every number but 16 for 10 spins…then 2 and then 23…gues what?.....16 3 times in 10 spins…..2 5 times in 10 spins….23 4 times in 10 spins.

And i know random is random….red can drop 9 times then 2 zero’s drop and then 9 red drops again. I know row’s like 11,22,33,11,22,33,0,11,11,11 can drop randomly. But i’ve never seen those things at a real roulette…at rng’s i see that more then 20 times a day every day.
So untill i have proof otherwise i can’t do nothing else but believe rng’s are software just like slots.

tiki101 - 27 January 2011 07:54 PM

The main rule of beating roulette I learned 20 years ago is NEVER BET AGAINST THE WHEEL!!! Bet with the wheel. 

What do you mean by that? Something like if red drops 9 times in a row don’t start betting on black?

tiki101 - 27 January 2011 07:54 PM

Now don’t get me wrong there are many other factors involved that I have spent the last 20 years refining and I certainly wouldn’t give away or even sell for thousands of dollars.  I have spent massive amounts of time recording numbers online and in B&M casinos developing my strategy but it all began with the highlighted sentence above. 

I just started at roulette but i also do record things. I can see so many non random things from rng but if i try to take advantage of it, it does the opposit.
For 2 weeks i play real roulette for 2 hours a day. In those 14 days i’ve never seen 0 drop more then 4 times in 2 hours. I also play, with little bets, 2 hours a day at online roulette with rng. Just trying out different things but no matter what i’ve never seen 0 drop less then 4 times in 2 hours. Accept ofcourse i bet on zero. Then i get the same result like a real roulette.

tiki101 - 27 January 2011 07:54 PM

So Herald do some research of your own using the above principle and don’t get conned into buying a worthless system, develop patience and bet within your means.
Cheers
Dave

Thanks for your info Dave. I would never buy a system. To much fun to find it yourself. But tips are helpfull and welcome ofcourse. Problem is english is not my native tounge so sometimes it’s hard to understand what people say or mean. Like never bet against the wheel. I hope you can explain it a bit more.

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