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Posted: 02 April 2014 08:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 91 ]
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Keep watching my members make a load of cash!! grin

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Posted: 02 April 2014 08:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 92 ]
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Chip-hunter - 02 April 2014 07:58 AM

@Tomuen Where is the logic to lose time to help people to make some cash instead to play yourself?  The only logic i can see to do that is if someone doesn’t want to risk his own bank to play (because he knows what will obviously happen ), so he ll rather play with people ‘s bank and ask for a %, and of course this method brings money.

I choose 37 people and i gave them a different number to play, max bet. There is one that will say i m a genius… you even shouldn’t worry about a system that works, just replace the winner by a new player smile

@VbMeister

Why do you think the casino has table limits?

It is not really for people who re playing a loosing progression. Most of the time they won’t see any Emirate guy with huge BR who had a revelation after read Hawks concept. They’ll meet sweet dreamers who want to make their 50$ per day. In my opinion it is more to protect from crazy gamblers that use winning progression, just imagine someone that is waiting for a number that hits 3 times in a row, and everytime he put all he won after this win he got 233280$, 4 time in a row 8 398 080$. An d this is not because this event is rare that it cannot come out twice a month for example. So i guess this is more because they could be ruined in 4 spins that they really instaured limits.

The think is it does not matter how you structure you bet you will be 2.7% at a disadvantage and in some cases even more.

I think the only way to be more than -2.7% is to play a bad Vb because the ball won’t fall in your area. Someone who has number a bit everywhere on the wheel has better chance than someone who makes too many revolution mistakes. Except this i don’t know how a player can lose more than 2.7%?


I mean if someone using a loosing progression he will lose more because the ammount of the bets will be bigger, instead to lose 2.7% of 10000 flat bet, he will lose 2.7% of 60000 with using a losing progression. So yes he will lose more but still losing 2.7% of the total bet engaged.

 

Your forgeting its human nature to be able to help you fellow neighbours and rewarding!!  Plus the fact that if one of my members lose’s this will be the first forum to hear about it! But i’m that certain of how great PX is that i’m willing to take the risk wink


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ps the bigger question is can you guys think outside the box and think maybe there is another way!

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Posted: 02 April 2014 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 93 ]
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tomuen - 02 April 2014 08:16 AM

... if one of my members lose’s this will be the first forum to hear about it! But i’m that certain of how great PX is that i’m willing to take the risk [Emphasis added]

And just what is that risk you are taking?

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Posted: 02 April 2014 11:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 94 ]
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The Midnight Skulker - 02 April 2014 10:48 AM
tomuen - 02 April 2014 08:16 AM

... if one of my members lose’s this will be the first forum to hear about it! But i’m that certain of how great PX is that i’m willing to take the risk [Emphasis added]

And just what is that risk you are taking?

Obviously im risking the reputation of PX! 


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Posted: 02 April 2014 01:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 95 ]
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Obviously im risking the reputation of PX!

What a big thing!

If you really were Robin Hood of the roulette, you’d lend a bankroll to your members, why not? Px is unbeatable right?, you don’t risk anything!

This is not help when it’s about asking money early or late…

ps the bigger question is can you guys think outside the box and think maybe there is another way!

Funny but when i read the forums it’s not another way, but another waysssssssssssssss to beat the roulette, it’s even hard to find someone that loses money to this game. That roulette has more holes/breaks than a swiss cheese! Crazy casino, they really don’t know what they do smile

Even if the casino had no edge, it would ruin you because of the difference of bankroll.

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Posted: 02 April 2014 11:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 96 ]
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Chip-hunter - 02 April 2014 07:58 AM

@Tomuen Where is the logic to lose time to help people to make some cash instead to play yourself?  The only logic i can see to do that is if someone doesn’t want to risk his own bank to play (because he knows what will obviously happen ), so he ll rather play with people ‘s bank and ask for a %, and of course this method brings money.

I choose 37 people and i gave them a different number to play, max bet. There is one that will say i m a genius… you even shouldn’t worry about a system that works, just replace the winner by a new player smile

@VbMeister

Why do you think the casino has table limits?

It is not really for people who re playing a loosing progression. Most of the time they won’t see any Emirate guy with huge BR who had a revelation after read Hawks concept. They’ll meet sweet dreamers who want to make their 50$ per day. In my opinion it is more to protect from crazy gamblers that use winning progression, just imagine someone that is waiting for a number that hits 3 times in a row, and everytime he put all he won after this win he got 233280$, 4 time in a row 8 398 080$. An d this is not because this event is rare that it cannot come out twice a month for example. So i guess this is more because they could be ruined in 4 spins that they really instaured limits.

The think is it does not matter how you structure you bet you will be 2.7% at a disadvantage and in some cases even more.

I think the only way to be more than -2.7% is to play a bad Vb because the ball won’t fall in your area. Someone who has number a bit everywhere on the wheel has better chance than someone who makes too many revolution mistakes. Except this i don’t know how a player can lose more than 2.7%?


I mean if someone using a loosing progression he will lose more because the ammount of the bets will be bigger, instead to lose 2.7% of 10000 flat bet, he will lose 2.7% of 60000 with using a losing progression. So yes he will lose more but still losing 2.7% of the total bet engaged.

If you play the 0 street bet (4 numbers) 0123. You get paid even less than the rest of the bets so you actually have a higher HE there.

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Posted: 03 April 2014 09:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 97 ]
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VB Meister - 02 April 2014 11:43 PM

If you play the 0 street bet (4 numbers) 0123. You get paid even less than the rest of the bets so you actually have a higher HE there.

Really?! big surprise Though I have never played a European wheel I thought this would be treated as a corner bet, a thought supported by http://en.casinoclub.com/casino-games/roulette-games/european-roulette.aspx.  Now that you mention it, however, I do know of one bet on an American wheel with a higher HE than every other bet: the five-number “house special” (00,0,1,2,3).

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Posted: 03 April 2014 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 98 ]
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On the France roulette the HE or EV is 1.35 for the ECs, 2.7 for all the other chances and between 1.35 and 2.7 for the mixed bets.

The HE or EV for the AR is 2.3 for all the chances except the 5-numberbet (0-00 1-2-3 ). The 5-number bet is the most bad odd of the roulette game.

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Posted: 03 April 2014 05:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 99 ]
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dobbelsteen - 03 April 2014 11:14 AM

The HE or EV for the AR is 2.3 for all the chances except the 5-numberbet (0-00 1-2-3 ).

I think you meant 5.3% (actually, 5.26%).

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Posted: 03 April 2014 11:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 100 ]
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The Midnight Skulker - 03 April 2014 09:03 AM
VB Meister - 02 April 2014 11:43 PM

If you play the 0 street bet (4 numbers) 0123. You get paid even less than the rest of the bets so you actually have a higher HE there.

Really?! big surprise Though I have never played a European wheel I thought this would be treated as a corner bet, a thought supported by http://en.casinoclub.com/casino-games/roulette-games/european-roulette.aspx.  Now that you mention it, however, I do know of one bet on an American wheel with a higher HE than every other bet: the five-number “house special” (00,0,1,2,3).

My mistake. I meant the 00 wheel.

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Posted: 04 April 2014 10:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 101 ]
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TMS you are right.I meant 5.3!!

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Posted: 08 April 2014 05:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 102 ]
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You can play 1-3-9 progression only on certain bets and only on recorded dealer with good signature. If you need more information on this get the book Roulette as your own ATM. I paid for it $97 in 2010. Now you can read it for $2.99 at Amazon. Book is excellent.

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Posted: 24 August 2016 12:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 103 ]
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I feel so fortunate to be able to say this but YES! I have been playing for about 12 years and have devised MANY systems all of which eventually break down and show flaws until I combined the Martingale system with a predictive “Street” bet that I call “Predictive Sectioning”. This concept takes Martingale to a whole nother level where on average you will spin 40-50 times without loss. I have made over $100,000 in the last 90 days putting this into play DAILY here in Las Vegas! Here is why it is called “Predictive Sectioning”. You have to respect the laws of probability and have absolute faith in it. I used to think that the 12 number columns were where the best outside bets were until I discovered that a “street” bet pays 11-1. Thanks to the number bar showing the history of numbers hit and because of that and the sheer number of tables at most casinos you would only need to stand around and wait a short time for 2 or 3 numbers to appear on the same street, and then naturally you place 11 bets along every street EXCEPT the section that just had 2-3 hits in it. You now have 90% of the board covered MINUS the “0” or “00” depending on which table you are playing on. American or European. Of course you are wagering 11 units to profit 1 but it can sometimes take 50-100 even more spins to hit you with a 3rd or 4th in that section to take you out. By that time you are in a substantial profit mode and your profits are made doing the same bet over and over. I get hit once in a while but im so far ahead its just fun to be able to predict my win with 98% accuracy. Just wanted to share. It can be done but you cant get greedy. You can also (if banked properly) RESCUE a loss by simply placing 10 units on each street bet that didnt hit and the odds favor you EVEN MORE in doing this but you also risk losing 10 times the wager and going backwards so it is always suggested that you take the 10 unit loss and start over. You will hit 40-50 more before your next loss and gradually move so far ahead that you will never bet differently again.

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Posted: 25 August 2016 06:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 104 ]
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AndyB418 - 24 August 2016 12:11 PM

I feel so fortunate to be able to say this but YES! I have been playing for about 12 years and have devised MANY systems all of which eventually break down and show flaws until I combined the Martingale system with a predictive “Street” bet that I call “Predictive Sectioning”. This concept takes Martingale to a whole nother level where on average you will spin 40-50 times without loss. I have made over $100,000 in the last 90 days putting this into play DAILY here in Las Vegas! Here is why it is called “Predictive Sectioning”. You have to respect the laws of probability and have absolute faith in it. I used to think that the 12 number columns were where the best outside bets were until I discovered that a “street” bet pays 11-1. Thanks to the number bar showing the history of numbers hit and because of that and the sheer number of tables at most casinos you would only need to stand around and wait a short time for 2 or 3 numbers to appear on the same street, and then naturally you place 11 bets along every street EXCEPT the section that just had 2-3 hits in it. You now have 90% of the board covered MINUS the “0” or “00” depending on which table you are playing on. American or European. Of course you are wagering 11 units to profit 1 but it can sometimes take 50-100 even more spins to hit you with a 3rd or 4th in that section to take you out. By that time you are in a substantial profit mode and your profits are made doing the same bet over and over. I get hit once in a while but im so far ahead its just fun to be able to predict my win with 98% accuracy. Just wanted to share. It can be done but you cant get greedy. You can also (if banked properly) RESCUE a loss by simply placing 10 units on each street bet that didnt hit and the odds favor you EVEN MORE in doing this but you also risk losing 10 times the wager and going backwards so it is always suggested that you take the 10 unit loss and start over. You will hit 40-50 more before your next loss and gradually move so far ahead that you will never bet differently again.

This is very interesting. I just was watching a thread (that seems to keep getting
removed) on the .cc group. And the claim is that streets have “compliments”.
You see two numbers from one street and it has a compliment (another street).
You bet that street for 12 spins. I have been testing it on zumma and also real
data that I have, and it has worked. No live play.

I will say that in my limited testing I don’t think I’ve ever seen it hit the
first spin. So this may support what you are saying. This could continue
to be good.

Oh, BTW, just by accident I printed his post, so I have the pairs that he used.

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Posted: 10 October 2016 06:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 105 ]
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In my opinion this is a game that depends on luck not fully but some what. No one can be perfect in such a game. I like to play roulette.

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