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VB - What is VB and why does it work?
Posted: 06 February 2015 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 61 ]
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Palestis,  upply 2 sec time interval to measure rotor speed, take diamond hitted, number under diamond when ball hitts it and final number. Separate spins cw and acw. Collect 300 spins at least and send me data. Ill have a look, if you could make some couins on it. If you wish…

In US casinos there is only one way spinning Not alternating between CW and CCW. And the dealer spins the ball from any point he choses. Unlike European where they start from last number spun and alternate.
300 spins from the same roulette takes a lot of time. Probably 7-10 hours depending on how many players play. In this casino there are no chip sorting machines. Either the dealer separates and stacks the chips after a spin , or a second dealer helps. All done manually. So much money and they don’t invest on a chip automatic stacker.

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Posted: 06 February 2015 10:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 62 ]
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palestis - 06 February 2015 06:04 AM

Sergyi
Palestis,  upply 2 sec time interval to measure rotor speed, take diamond hitted, number under diamond when ball hitts it and final number. Separate spins cw and acw. Collect 300 spins at least and send me data. Ill have a look, if you could make some couins on it. If you wish…

In US casinos there is only one way spinning Not alternating between CW and CCW. And the dealer spins the ball from any point he choses. Unlike European where they start from last number spun and alternate.
300 spins from the same roulette takes a lot of time. Probably 7-10 hours depending on how many players play. In this casino there are no chip sorting machines. Either the dealer separates and stacks the chips after a spin , or a second dealer helps. All done manually. So much money and they don’t invest on a chip automatic stacker.

Sounds good. One direction is super l invy you. Look where is zero, start timer, or blink your eyes 5 times, take number where zero was ( same position). .. rest as l described.  It will take you one day only. Or 2 visits to that casino…

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Posted: 07 February 2015 11:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 63 ]
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IS THIS RIGHT WAY?

The following is the absolute basics for anyone wanting to master VB.
As VB is difficult to master, you do not begin by clocking ball and wheel speeds with headcounts.

You must categorize spins in two categories: those which do not exceed 14 revolutions, and those which are 15+. You see from the beginning of the spin if the ball is travelling fast or not, and you have to be experienced with the wheel you are playing.

If you are able to at least clock the wheel speed, it will be better. If you are not capable of, i advise to stick with dealers which are reasonably consistant in their spins (so that you don’t need to clock precisely wheel and ball speeds, you rely on the fact it will be spun at around the same speeds). It is not important if some spins are not consistant, you need around 2 of 3 spins consistant).

Now that you have found the right table/dealers, you must choose a reference point. The most common is the vertical diamond located at 12 o’clock.

For slower spins (not more than 14 ball revolutions):

Locate the numbers of the 3rd and 5th revolutions from the start (number of the 4th revolution in the middle), then note where the ball is landing.
Now, you must compare your numbers which passed at the 3rd,4th and 5th revolutions at our reference point (vertical diamond at 12 o’clock) with the final result.
Be careful, with this method, we use the vis-à-vis, meaning if the number at the 3rd revolution was 10, we also have bet 0.

Here is how the wheel is split:

North/South: split 0/3 5/8 23/26
North-West/South-East: split 11/12 35/36 street: 28/29/30
North-East/South-West: split 1/4 1/2 street: 19/20/21
West-East: split 6/9 31/34 14/17

After some results and with appropriate conditions which are found if you have 3-4 tables in your Casino, you will realize with a dealer who spins the wheel and ball approximately at the same speed, that the result is around the 4th revolution number (including vis-à-vis).
If you note that you are always 5 pockets anticlockwise(i.e) from where the ball is landing, you need to rotate the reference point by the same amount, and in the same direction to be in the middle of the results.

To make your charts, you need to use only one direction (or both if you are able to), and compare the result with the number the closest from the axle.
Example: prediction 0/3 5/8 23/26, Result: 28
In your chart you add -3 because 28 is 3 numbers anticlockwise from number 3.

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Posted: 08 February 2015 04:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 64 ]
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pauli1976 - 07 February 2015 11:38 PM

IS THIS RIGHT WAY?

The following is the absolute basics for anyone wanting to master VB.
As VB is difficult to master, you do not begin by clocking ball and wheel speeds with headcounts.

You must categorize spins in two categories: those which do not exceed 14 revolutions, and those which are 15+. You see from the beginning of the spin if the ball is travelling fast or not, and you have to be experienced with the wheel you are playing.

If you are able to at least clock the wheel speed, it will be better. If you are not capable of, i advise to stick with dealers which are reasonably consistant in their spins (so that you don’t need to clock precisely wheel and ball speeds, you rely on the fact it will be spun at around the same speeds). It is not important if some spins are not consistant, you need around 2 of 3 spins consistant).

Now that you have found the right table/dealers, you must choose a reference point. The most common is the vertical diamond located at 12 o’clock.

For slower spins (not more than 14 ball revolutions):

Locate the numbers of the 3rd and 5th revolutions from the start (number of the 4th revolution in the middle), then note where the ball is landing.
Now, you must compare your numbers which passed at the 3rd,4th and 5th revolutions at our reference point (vertical diamond at 12 o’clock) with the final result.
Be careful, with this method, we use the vis-à-vis, meaning if the number at the 3rd revolution was 10, we also have bet 0.

Here is how the wheel is split:

North/South: split 0/3 5/8 23/26
North-West/South-East: split 11/12 35/36 street: 28/29/30
North-East/South-West: split 1/4 1/2 street: 19/20/21
West-East: split 6/9 31/34 14/17

After some results and with appropriate conditions which are found if you have 3-4 tables in your Casino, you will realize with a dealer who spins the wheel and ball approximately at the same speed, that the result is around the 4th revolution number (including vis-à-vis).
If you note that you are always 5 pockets anticlockwise(i.e) from where the ball is landing, you need to rotate the reference point by the same amount, and in the same direction to be in the middle of the results.

To make your charts, you need to use only one direction (or both if you are able to), and compare the result with the number the closest from the axle.
Example: prediction 0/3 5/8 23/26, Result: 28
In your chart you add -3 because 28 is 3 numbers anticlockwise from number 3.

Pauli. Did you check this wheel for dominant drop area?

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Posted: 08 February 2015 05:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 65 ]
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VB Meister - 08 February 2015 04:44 AM
pauli1976 - 07 February 2015 11:38 PM

IS THIS RIGHT WAY?

The following is the absolute basics for anyone wanting to master VB.
As VB is difficult to master, you do not begin by clocking ball and wheel speeds with headcounts.

You must categorize spins in two categories: those which do not exceed 14 revolutions, and those which are 15+. You see from the beginning of the spin if the ball is travelling fast or not, and you have to be experienced with the wheel you are playing.

If you are able to at least clock the wheel speed, it will be better. If you are not capable of, i advise to stick with dealers which are reasonably consistant in their spins (so that you don’t need to clock precisely wheel and ball speeds, you rely on the fact it will be spun at around the same speeds). It is not important if some spins are not consistant, you need around 2 of 3 spins consistant).

Now that you have found the right table/dealers, you must choose a reference point. The most common is the vertical diamond located at 12 o’clock.

For slower spins (not more than 14 ball revolutions):

Locate the numbers of the 3rd and 5th revolutions from the start (number of the 4th revolution in the middle), then note where the ball is landing.
Now, you must compare your numbers which passed at the 3rd,4th and 5th revolutions at our reference point (vertical diamond at 12 o’clock) with the final result.
Be careful, with this method, we use the vis-à-vis, meaning if the number at the 3rd revolution was 10, we also have bet 0.

Here is how the wheel is split:

North/South: split 0/3 5/8 23/26
North-West/South-East: split 11/12 35/36 street: 28/29/30
North-East/South-West: split 1/4 1/2 street: 19/20/21
West-East: split 6/9 31/34 14/17

After some results and with appropriate conditions which are found if you have 3-4 tables in your Casino, you will realize with a dealer who spins the wheel and ball approximately at the same speed, that the result is around the 4th revolution number (including vis-à-vis).
If you note that you are always 5 pockets anticlockwise(i.e) from where the ball is landing, you need to rotate the reference point by the same amount, and in the same direction to be in the middle of the results.

To make your charts, you need to use only one direction (or both if you are able to), and compare the result with the number the closest from the axle.
Example: prediction 0/3 5/8 23/26, Result: 28
In your chart you add -3 because 28 is 3 numbers anticlockwise from number 3.

Pauli. Did you check this wheel for dominant drop area?

No I have not tried this basic instruction VB which I found internet.

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Posted: 08 February 2015 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 66 ]
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pauli1976 - 08 February 2015 05:05 AM
VB Meister - 08 February 2015 04:44 AM
pauli1976 - 07 February 2015 11:38 PM

IS THIS RIGHT WAY?

The following is the absolute basics for anyone wanting to master VB.
As VB is difficult to master, you do not begin by clocking ball and wheel speeds with headcounts.

You must categorize spins in two categories: those which do not exceed 14 revolutions, and those which are 15+. You see from the beginning of the spin if the ball is travelling fast or not, and you have to be experienced with the wheel you are playing.

If you are able to at least clock the wheel speed, it will be better. If you are not capable of, i advise to stick with dealers which are reasonably consistant in their spins (so that you don’t need to clock precisely wheel and ball speeds, you rely on the fact it will be spun at around the same speeds). It is not important if some spins are not consistant, you need around 2 of 3 spins consistant).

Now that you have found the right table/dealers, you must choose a reference point. The most common is the vertical diamond located at 12 o’clock.

For slower spins (not more than 14 ball revolutions):

Locate the numbers of the 3rd and 5th revolutions from the start (number of the 4th revolution in the middle), then note where the ball is landing.
Now, you must compare your numbers which passed at the 3rd,4th and 5th revolutions at our reference point (vertical diamond at 12 o’clock) with the final result.
Be careful, with this method, we use the vis-à-vis, meaning if the number at the 3rd revolution was 10, we also have bet 0.

Here is how the wheel is split:

North/South: split 0/3 5/8 23/26
North-West/South-East: split 11/12 35/36 street: 28/29/30
North-East/South-West: split 1/4 1/2 street: 19/20/21
West-East: split 6/9 31/34 14/17

After some results and with appropriate conditions which are found if you have 3-4 tables in your Casino, you will realize with a dealer who spins the wheel and ball approximately at the same speed, that the result is around the 4th revolution number (including vis-à-vis).
If you note that you are always 5 pockets anticlockwise(i.e) from where the ball is landing, you need to rotate the reference point by the same amount, and in the same direction to be in the middle of the results.

To make your charts, you need to use only one direction (or both if you are able to), and compare the result with the number the closest from the axle.
Example: prediction 0/3 5/8 23/26, Result: 28
In your chart you add -3 because 28 is 3 numbers anticlockwise from number 3.

Pauli. Did you check this wheel for dominant drop area?

No I have not tried this basic instruction VB which I found internet.

When you go again. Just watch 10 spins and see what vertival deflectors hit and how many hits each. If you get 7/10 hits on a deflector you have a dominant drop.

If it isba 2 pin wheel you might have 5 and 3 hits on adjacent deflectors. Let me now.

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Posted: 03 August 2015 05:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 67 ]
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pauli how is it going ...

I just want to mention that there is two different shcools how to deal with multi drop zone.
One way is to use Che Lee & Pierre Basieux methodology or Jafco & Laurance Scott.

Try to get your hands on Masters’Roulette book - there is a digital PDF copy circulating around on internet.
And same with Jafco latest complete package.

You need that to set up a good plan how to play.
Wheel signature or VB.

Cheers

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