Anyone with half a brain knows that most roulette systems only work in the short run. Over extended periods of play you may run into a real bad streak and lose everything you went into the casino with. Systems just DO NOT work in the long run. But what if (and that’s a big IF) you play lots of short run sessions? You win $20, then go have a smoke or something to drink, and come back and do that over and over again. Possibly going to different casinos. If you’re someone who only wins short term, is it possible to play multiple short term sessions and win every time? It’s that level of thinking I’d like to see someone try. I play my system that my brain came up with and mathematically, it is a 0.25% chance of me losing everything. Realistically, roulette is a game of chance and not a game of math. But so far I’ve come up lucky in the short run when I do go. Which is not very often because I drive a truck and don’t have much time to stop to go gamble. I’d like to see what systems people have come up with. I might share my own if other people are willing read this and post replies.
Thank you,
Jason

I am always interested in peoples systems.  If you want to post it here, I will check it out and let you know what I think of it.  I do think that no matter what you do to put the odds in your favor you are just stretching the longevity of your dollar, there is not real way to get up on the casino.

YOU BOTH WRONG….............................Roulette is beatable.I do it for years now…..............Galeb

galeb - 25 March 2009 08:00 AM

YOU BOTH WRONG….............................Roulette is beatable.I do it for years now…..............Galeb

I would like to read how you have won for years—most all people here would like to read that.

Tell us what we have to do to read how you do it.

Thanks —Lucky Berns

OK Blackjack&Lucky; Berns,———-here B.Jack check-test this,virtual pattern of 11 E/C,for example,

      R   O   L
      R   E   L
      R   E   H
      B   O   L
      R   O   H
      R   E   H
      B   O   H
      B   E     L
      R   O   H
      B   E     H
      B   E     L
————————————NOT OPPOSITE BUT WITH THE WHEEL.——-WHEN YOU DO IT I WILL GIVE YOU SYSTEM…......CHEERS GALEB

galeb - 25 March 2009 08:00 AM

YOU BOTH WRONG….............................Roulette is beatable.I do it for years now…..............Galeb

Roulette is beatable….in the short run. No betting system can overcome the house edge of 5.26%. Especially for the long run. Galeb, you must be a wheel tracker or finding a dealer signature which can raise your edge over the casino. Kudos to you if you do that sort of thing. I just don’t have the patience. That’s why I attack the wheel in short runs. I like to spend about 5 minutes at one table, win about $20, and then leave the table. I play about 4 hours at a time and net around $150-$200 whenever I have the time to go. Which is not often at all. That’s not too bad I guess. I’d like to hear how you do it. Good luck to you!!

inanejason8 - 01 April 2009 12:02 PM

galeb - 25 March 2009 08:00 AM

YOU BOTH WRONG….............................Roulette is beatable.I do it for years now…..............Galeb

Roulette is beatable….in the short run. No betting system can overcome the house edge of 5.26%. Especially for the long run. Galeb, you must be a wheel tracker or finding a dealer signature which can raise your edge over the casino. Kudos to you if you do that sort of thing. I just don’t have the patience. That’s why I attack the wheel in short runs. I like to spend about 5 minutes at one table, win about $20, and then leave the table. I play about 4 hours at a time and net around $150-$200 whenever I have the time to go. Which is not often at all. That’s not too bad I guess. I’d like to hear how you do it. Good luck to you!!

Am retired ex croupier,playing only live-land casino,Europe, single zero all 3 E/C simultaneously,random vers.random….....cheers Galeb

galeb - 01 April 2009 12:35 PM

inanejason8 - 01 April 2009 12:02 PM

galeb - 25 March 2009 08:00 AM

YOU BOTH WRONG….............................Roulette is beatable.I do it for years now…..............Galeb

Roulette is beatable….in the short run. No betting system can overcome the house edge of 5.26%. Especially for the long run. Galeb, you must be a wheel tracker or finding a dealer signature which can raise your edge over the casino. Kudos to you if you do that sort of thing. I just don’t have the patience. That’s why I attack the wheel in short runs. I like to spend about 5 minutes at one table, win about $20, and then leave the table. I play about 4 hours at a time and net around $150-$200 whenever I have the time to go. Which is not often at all. That’s not too bad I guess. I’d like to hear how you do it. Good luck to you!!

 

Am retired ex croupier,playing only live-land casino,Europe, single zero all 3 E/C simultaneously,random vers.random….....cheers Galeb

Sorry, I don’t know what E/C means…

It means even chances,RED-BLACK,LOW-HIGH,ODD-EVEN,outside bets.

galeb - 01 April 2009 01:36 PM

It means even chances,RED-BLACK,LOW-HIGH,ODD-EVEN,outside bets.

I would very much like to see your system on this. I am indeed intrigued by this.

galeb - 01 April 2009 10:30 AM

OK Blackjack&Lucky; Berns,———-here B.Jack check-test this,virtual pattern of 11 E/C,for example,

      R   O   L
      R   E   L
      R   E   H
      B   O   L
      R   O   H
      R   E   H
      B   O   H
      B   E     L
      R   O   H
      B   E     H
      B   E     L
————————————NOT OPPOSITE BUT WITH THE WHEEL.——-WHEN YOU DO IT I WILL GIVE YOU SYSTEM…......CHEERS GALEB

OK - I am not sure what we are surposed to do—“not the opposite” go with the wheel—-

OK play the last to repeat ????

R O L
R E L       GO WITH THE WHEEL—I JUST MADE 3 BETS AND WON 2 OF THEM - AM AHEAD 1 UNIT
R E H       GO WITH THE WHEEL—i MADE THREE BETS AND WON 2 OF THEM - AM AHEAD 2 UNITS
B O L       GO WITH THE WHEEL - -  i MADE 3 BETS AND WON NONE OF THEM -  AM NOW LOSING 1 UNIT
R O H     GO WITH THE WHEEL - MADE 3 BETS - AND WON 1 OD THEM—AM NOW LOSING LOSING 2
R E H       DO WITH THE WHEEL MADE 3 BETS - AND WON 2 OF THEM   AM NOW AM NOW LOSING ONE
B O H       GO WITH THE WHEEL—MADE 3 BETS - WON WON ONE OF THEM - AM NOW LOSING 2 UNITS
B E L       3 BETS WON ONE OF THEM AM NOW AM NOW LOSING 3 UNITS
R O H       3 BETS MADE   WON 0—- AM NOW LOSING 6 UNITS
B E H       3 BETS MADE - WON ONE OF THEM - NOW LOSING 7 UNITS
B E L       3 BETS MADE - WON 2 OF THEM - NOW LOSING 6 UNITS

i DON’T THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU MEAN BY FOLLOWING THE WHEEL—

MAYBE WE SHOULD BE BETTING AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD GIVE US A PROFIT WHEN WE GET ALL 3 BETS TO WIN—NOT SURE

If we bet enough to make a profit when all 3 hit - then right now we would be losing 22 units—our last bets would have been 12 on B win—11 on E Win—-11 on H - lose. .. Maybe this is what it is you are thinking—eventually it will win out if the 3 winners are not too far off in the future.

Not sure what you want us to do yet.  Still waiting for the answer.

Lucky Berns

Wrong…......just test on RNG sequence of virtual pattern of 11,individually on E/C….after each spin writing underline a new one,that way allways forming pattern of 11.We are betting that the wheel will repeat at least one of the sequence of 11…....Galeb

In other words,when it does not repeats it self in complete pattern we lose,example

B                                             R
B                                             R
R                                             B
R                                             B
R                                             B
B                                             R
R                                             B
R                                             B
B                                             R
R                                             B
R                                             B
——virtual pattern                             ——loosing pattern,after betting on virtual one.

Ok - thank you Galab - I am going to try to write out an example—tell me if I am right or wrong.

I go to table and write down what the next 11 results are and this is what I find. Using only the Red and Black even chance.

——————r b r b b b r r r b r ( R win ) ( R lose ) ( B lose ) (R lose ) ( B win)
Now we get our chips ready to bet and we follow what just happened in the 11 spins. We bet what happened in the charted sequence starting with the first spin result.

1st bet is on R—- if red hits we win—- are we done for this sequence?

First Sequence = +1

Now we look at the last 11 results which are B R B B B R R R B R R and our next bet is on B—if we lose that one our next bet is on R (now I am assuming that we are betting enough to make a profit - so our next bet is for 2 units) we bet 2 units on R and we lose (our next bet is for 4 units )

we are at the 4th bet since starting our beting—- we bet 4 units on B and we lose

our next bet is for 8 units on B and we win—and this sequence is over—we had lost 1 + 2 + 4 and we just won 8 units giving us a profit of 1 unit..

Second sequence + +1 total for session is +2.

Now our last 11 results look like this > B R R R B R R R B R B—OUR NEXT BET WILL BE FOR 1 UNIT ON B

Not sure if I have the betting amounts understood—you must have a betting management figured out better than this - cause this could get out of hand if a losing streak appears . The betting would look like this after a string of losers.

1-l -1
2-l -2 total loss -3
3-l- 4 total loss -7
4-l -8 total loss -15
5-l -16 total loss 31
6-l -32 total loss 63
7-l -64 total loss 127
8-l -128 total loss - 255
9-l -256 total loss -511
10-l -512 total loss - 1023
11-l -1024 total loss - 2047 after 11 losses in a row. Maybe you have never seen this—but I have.

Let us know what I have been right or wrong in my assumptions. I appreciate your efforts in trying to show us how you make money at the wheel. Please excuse the spelling.

Thanks,
Lucky Berns

You are right in your assumption regarding the continueos pattern,but not about staking plan.I understood that you can test this continual
sequence 10-20000th.spins,either E/C,can be O/E,L/H or R/B…......AND WHEN YOU DO THAT,iWILL EXPLAIN SYSTEM….did not I said so in one of the previous posts???....................Galeb

galeb - 06 April 2009 07:16 AM

You are right in your assumption regarding the continueos pattern,but not about staking plan.I understood that you can test this continual
sequence 10-20000th.spins,either E/C,can be O/E,L/H or R/B…......AND WHEN YOU DO THAT,iWILL EXPLAIN SYSTEM….did not I said so in one of the previous posts???....................Galeb

You want me to test the plan for 20,000 spins ????? But I don’t have a clue from you of what the staking plan is.  I can only guess—the Martingale was of course wrong—now I have to look at other plans —like maybe increasing the bets less aggresively but maybe parlaying 2 bets to get to the point of profit.  But testing something that I am not sure of having the correct plan for 20,000 spins is not somthing that will be done. I understand that I can use any or all 3 of the e/c ‘s. Maybe it is playing all three and following what the wheel has shown—but increasing the amount on the bet after a win or a loss.  Example : you play all 3 for 1 unit and if you get 2 or 3 right you increase the bet size for the next spin.

Lucky Berns

Ok—maybe I am getting closer now

I tried this with a test.

I charted for 11 spins - wrote down what resulted like the following

1—h b e

2—-h b e

3—h b o

4—l b o

5—l b e

etc

Now I look at what appeared during the No 1 spin and with this being my NEW No 1 spin I play the same bets which would be HIGH BLACK EVEN for 1 unit each.

Now for my play No 2—I look to see how the bets did for No 1—If the result was a new high profit—if I had 2 wins or 3 wins - then my betting would start over again at 1 unit each

BUT if I hada a loss ( 0 or 1 win ) I would increase my bets to 2 units and look at what the results were for the previous No 2 spin—- it was HIGH BLACK EVEN - that would be my betsfor my new No 2 spin.

after each spin I would check my balance—if I was at a new high balance I would stop increaseing the bets and go back to 1 units bets—-

If I had a losing spin onthe last spin I would increase the bets by 1 unit each.

If I had won all 3 bets and still was not at a high bslance I would continue with the same bet amounts.

I played thru 47 betting spins and had 9 spins result in a new high balance—3 of them were right after a 3 win-spin.

One time I had a 3 win that did not result ina new High Balance.

I finished after the 47th betting spin with a profit of 30 units .

The largest bets I made were 14 units on each e/c.

My deepest draw on my bank was about 90 units before it recovered. I do not have exact fighures in front of me—but that was a deep draw-down on bank.

Am I close to what you do??

Lucky Berns