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Hi Brian

Just to prove I actually do what I say, here’s Pay Pals latest reply.  Glad you got those three poor suckers this morning as they may be your last. We can only hope.

I have somehow been drawn into this debate or should i say slanging match, i dont hide anything i am from edinburgh scotland and proud of it. Brian i think your remarks about me are way over the top and i think an apology is due
tom

Sorry Maria…but you lose yet again. They will no doubt become very satisfied customers. I checked with paypal too, and there is no action being taken against me…..none. If you werent such a loser you might be a winner Maria…..no, I take that back…theres no hope for you. Gotta go…“mate.”  I love you. ———-your superior in every way

joiner29 - 05 November 2011 07:01 PM

I have somehow been drawn into this debate or should i say slanging match, i dont hide anything i am from edinburgh scotland and proud of it. Brian i think your remarks about me are way over the top and i think an apology is due
tom

Hi Tom

I am extremely sorry you have been caught up in this mess. 

I now realise that I should have insisted that Brian use my private email—  .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  to avoid embarrassment to you and other forum uses. I imagine how disgusted female readers must have felt with the obscene comments Brian has left.

However please believe I am in this to help not only you but all those who have fallen victim to this con artist. If paypal decide to get rid of him they must give refunds.. so lets hope.

By the way I have been all over the world and Scotland and Ireland are my two favorite countries. (next to Australia of course). Apart from the great scenery the people are just great.  Even though they took a few quid off my friend and I playing pool.  Never challenge a Scotsman to a game of pool. They’re too good!!

Cheers and sorry again
Dave

roulettedealer - 05 November 2011 07:01 PM

Sorry Maria…but you lose yet again. They will no doubt become very satisfied customers. I checked with paypal too, and there is no action being taken against me…..none. If you werent such a loser you might be a winner Maria…..no, I take that back…theres no hope for you. Gotta go…“mate.”  I love you. ———-your superior in every way

Tom is right.  Thanks to you this forum has degenerated into toilet door level.  I feel embarrassed just reading your trash. From now on you can only communicate with you through my private email- .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) to prevent further embarrassment to all. Particularly women who may read your obscene posts. I am sure all Southern Americans find you an abhorrent horror and most would be hanging their head in disgust also.

I apoligise to everyone for not taking this step much earlier.

Dave

To all who have been following this continuing argument, you can trace the threads back and see that Maria (tiki) started this whole mess…I only finished it. His unprofessionalism was uncalled for in the first place, If he wanted to challenge my integrity…something he knows nothing about…all he had to do was challenge my knowlege of the game…something he also knows nothing about. Instead, he chose to call me a con artist and a scammer, and thus this dispute was born. He may not be accustomed to his taunts and unprofessional demeanor being matched, but now he is. Ill be glad to never write you again, but I will keep on with the ridiculous responses as long as you can go. You still have never proved yourself as an athority on the subject of roulette, or anything else for that matter, and therefore do not reserve the right to question me or anyone else. Until you can do so, please, do us all a favor and quite trying to mislead everyone into believing that I am the con artist…when it is clearly you who have tried to manipulate everyones opinions. And to Tom, if you come on here and accuse me of being a con artist…something we both know is a lie, than Im going to attack you as well….get used to it. Lying about my character and the validity of my system and intentions is no way to obtain a refund…this was a private matter which you chose to make public…so welcome to it.

Hi brian if you check i asked for a refund at your system site not in public so please get your facts right before you try to belittle me in public.
tom

Im not trying to belittle you, Tom…You asked me for proof of the effectivness of one of the strategies on the site, and I was willing to provide this. You were not satisfied with online proof, so I offered to record one of my gaming sessions at a live casino…which I did, however, before I got the chance to send you the material…you wrote me a harassing email calling me a con-artist and a liar…?....I must admit, this came as a suprise to me, then you followed up that email with another asking when I was going to send you the recording of my session, as promised. When I refused to write you back, you then chose to make the issue public. As I told you before, Tom, you can still remain a member of the site, I wont ban you because you paid for the info, however, I will not converse with you or lend you my support after recieving harassing emails from you for no reason whatsoever…and now this. The person you chose to partner up with on this forum…the one I like to call Maria, knows nothing about the game of roulette and has nothing to offer you, and he does not have your best interest at heart…trust me. This man simply wishes to try and discredit anyone who poses a threat to him and his knowlege of the game…or lack there of. I am glad that he has chosen not to use this forum to go back and forth with me anymore, and to get him to but out of my buisness I had to be very vulgar…but a person like that only responds to this type of behavior. You can choose to continue to persue this issue if you wish, but you would be better off studying the material you paid for, and applying it as it is no scam…it is the real deal.

OK fist of all Iam not teaming up with anybody, what i am annoyed at is you said you would send proof which i waited for and it never came. Why dont you try and send it again and maybe all of this will end
tom

As far as Im concerned…its already over. The only one being hurt here is you, because you have taken something good and thrown it away…if ever you choose to truly pursue the understanding of the techniques I teach, then youll realize how badly mistaken you truly are….but thats on you, Tom. Good luck.

Therein lies the proof, you dont have any you are just stringing people along with all this talk on forums i hope the owners of this forum are reading this
tom

Tom, remember…you didnt ask me to record my playing sessions….I offered it to you because you were so hesitant about using the techniques. I wanted to show you that it works first hand, and give you the confidence to try them as well as an example of how to properly apply the methods in the coarse. I offered this to you, not the other way around. You are speaking as if you requested something and did not recieve it….a total lie. You would have recieved what I offered you, but you messed that up when you sent me harassing emails. I went out on a limb to record my playing at a wheel, something that is illegal in the casino, to help you to better understand how you must play, and to give you a confidence boost….and this is what I get in return, huh? All you had to do was say, “hey Brian, I didnt receive your email, is there a problem?” And I would have replied “Hey Tom, sorry about that, I actually sent it yesterday morning, but recieved a delivery failure when I checked my email today…Ill resend it right away.” This, however, is not the ending of our story…the ending of this story goes something like this…...“Hey Brian, wheres my proof you scammer…you are nothing but a con artist…when am I going to get my proof…why dont you just give me my money back…con artist.”  Sound familiar, Tom?  I dont deal with people like you…you are unprofessional, and when you sent that email, you forfeited my support…if you want proof of the effectivness of my system…go to the casino and get it…you wont be dissapointed, but something tells me you wont. I dont wish to start a spat with you, as I was dragged into one by the one I like to call Maria, so lets leave it at that.