I just ordered Brians roulette system yesterday, and it is for real. There is a lot of information to digest, but it is all very easy to understand. I recieved a private message from one of the forum members warning against system sellers on the internet, but I did it anyways. I must say that the customer support is excellent! Everyone of my questions have been personally anwsered. Just to keep everyone updated, I tried the clocking method I read about in some of roulette dealers threads on the jafco roulette wheel on youtube, and I actually was able to tell where the ball was going to land within 3-4 pockets of the actual number! I am pretty excited to try this live…will keep everyone posted on my progress. Has anyone else on this forum tried this system? Would like to compare notes. PM me.

sounds interesting,keep us updated m8 please…..
picallo..

Been studying the dealer signature stuff, sounds good. Think I will stick with the wheel clocking method though. Have been practicing on jacfo wheel with great results. Still not ready to go to casino and try for real though. Does anyone know of any other good sites with live wheels for testing? I think this weekend I will go to casino and just watch the wheel and practice without playing. Brian suggests doing this and starting to analyze the ball scatter. All in preperation for the big moment when I actually put money on the table. Exciting stuff!

Posted: 03 November 2011 04:23 PM

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Ive copied this form one of the posts at the forum!!Is this true??

Hi everybody i got scammed by the so called brain i asked for a refund of my money, he said i was not using the so called system properly. After a few emails to and fro he said he would send me picture proof guess what never arrived, after more emails still no refund i contacted paypal they said 45 days had lapsed so no refund from them.
He obviously drags things out for 45 days then he wins, but i am not finished yet
tom

I know that Brian is no scammer. I just ordered his system a few days ago and am already using it with success. He has been excellent through the emails and has answered all of my questions and helped me out. Maybe some people dont really want to learn something which takes practice and really works, but are truly looking for what others on this forum call the “holy grail”. I am a happy customer, I sing the praises of Brian and his knowlege as a master of roulette!!! Thaks Brian!

Hello all, this is Brian. That old post was from one of my disgruntled former students who claimed they wanted to learn VB, but when they recieved the lessons, decided that it was too much work and merely wanted to play online RNG. It seems no one ever bothers to repost the positive testimonials on here, why is that? I must say, that the study of the physics of the wheel, and the employment of advantage play techniques such as the ones offered in my coarse is the only way to beat the wheel in the long term, or at all for that matter. Mere betting strategies with a complex progression will not ever gain the player an edge over the house…..dont you understand this? Its cool if you are making a little bit of money in the short term, but that is really simply luck. In the end, if you get 1,000 people to follow you in a simple betting strategy which offers no mathematical advantage whatsoever, then you will ultimately cause 1,000 people to loose their money. If that is the way everyone chooses to play, then to each thier own, but you have to aknowlege the fact that you have gained nothing in terms of an advantage, and be sure not to falsely lead your followers into believing that the have either.—-Brian

I must say though, that I welcome constructive critisism, as we all should be checking one another constantly to ensure that we are operating with integrity. Roulette is ultimately about having fun…so good luck to everyone and try to have fun with it.—-Brian

An interesting tread.  I know that at genuine winner VB are being used quite successfully but I always wonder why people are charging money and sometimes so much for a system ( either RNG or VB) if they can make all the money they need anyway.  Genuine winner seems to cost as much as 60.000 USD. ??!!!

So Brian if your system is equally good (and to be honest I do believe with you that VB is indeed the better, be it more difficult to apply, technique to beat roulette)  you should be rich by now and as a your contribution to the world you could provide the rules to apply for example at this forum.  VB can indeed overcome the house edge of 2.7 % making the player the ultimate winner in the long run.  You know that rich people nowadays often give away parts of their fortunes to help others.

So I challenge you.  Provide us here at this rouletteforum with your VB systems/techniques so we can all be rich. To make it even better I suggest that you pick a good fund (charity or something)  that you like to see supported (anywhere you want) and I will gladly sign a copntract with you to pay a percentage of what I make using your VB techniques, to this charity. 

This way we all benefit and at the same time we can help others who are not in such good conditions as we are in. 

Chris

CasinoObserver - 30 December 2011 06:26 AM

An interesting tread.  I know that at genuine winner VB are being used quite successfully but I always wonder why people are charging money and sometimes so much for a system ( either RNG or VB) if they can make all the money they need anyway.  Genuine winner seems to cost as much as 60.000 USD. ??!!!

So Brian if your system is equally good (and to be honest I do believe with you that VB is indeed the better, be it more difficult to apply, technique to beat roulette)  you should be rich by now and as a your contribution to the world you could provide the rules to apply for example at this forum.  VB can indeed overcome the house edge of 2.7 % making the player the ultimate winner in the long run.  You know that rich people nowadays often give away parts of their fortunes to help others.

So I challenge you.  Provide us here at this rouletteforum with your VB systems/techniques so we can all be rich. To make it even better I suggest that you pick a good fund (charity or something)  that you like to see supported (anywhere you want) and I will gladly sign a copntract with you to pay a percentage of what I make using your VB techniques, to this charity. 

This way we all benefit and at the same time we can help others who are not in such good conditions as we are in. 

Chris

Very good point!But we should understand that Brian did a big work,spent probably years for finding what he found.So its his choice not to pick any charity.And he is asking not so big money for his stuff.BUT!Before customer sending the money it will good if he can get some proof that this stuff is useful.How to do that?Probably to make some video-conference where Brian will show us one of his methods.So we can see if Brian himself can predict using his skill.For example,I still do not believe that anybody can predict a exact number on 3 attempts(half wheel,10 numbers,even 5-yes,but exact number!!!).So personally for me its a one of motives to hesitate.It will be wonderful to get whole stuff about VB but doubts of course exist.

Brian,allow me to ask you a coupe of questions.1)If you have a VB method for non-tilted wheels?2)Minimum how many seconds before no more bets do I have playing one of your methods?Thanks!

Hello all, this is Brian. I havent been on the forum alot lately because Ive been a bit under the weather. First of all, I would like to thank Luckystreak777 for posting his positive reviews on my system. I do not ask any of my students to post their comments, but I appreciate it. He is doing very well. Next, I would like to address the question that I actually get alot, and that is why am I selling my system when I could be rich using it myself? The answer is that I have been using my system for years now, and I am also a professional roulette dealer. I love being a dealer and I love the game of roulette, but to become rich playing roulette is not a very realistic goal, and there are many reasons for this: 1. No casino would allow you to play and play and win enough money to retire on, not even close…they would not only ban you from playing table games at thier casino, but they would contact all of the other local casinos and tag you as an advantage player, and you would not be able to play anywheres. The number one rule of gambling is that if you cant play, you cant win. 2. I have been teaching others to use my system for years now, far longer than I have been selling it online. I mainly teach people live in one of my many lacal casinos. The majority of my customers are players of mine, and they spread my services via word of mouth. I recently began to venture online, and it is nice, but the face to face makes the whole thing must easier to teach. To be perfectly honest with everyone, I like making money, and I did work very hard developing my roulette techniques to what they are today, I didnt have the luxury of a mentor, I actually had to figure it all out for myself….lots of trial and error, and lots of money and time spent. I feel I deserve to be compensated for my efforts and my intillectual property, and I do well from selling my methods. And fortunately, so do the majority of my students. While becoming rich playing roulette and using VB is a perfectly reasonable and attainable goal, after all, all you would have to do is simply bet more to win more, it is always best to fly below the casino radar, they know what they are doing. Casinos do not aknowlege advantage roulette players and VB like they do card counting and the like, they are not aware of its potential…....YET. One day they will be, and then it will all be useless. Do you know what would happen if they knew that the ball drop could be predicted? They would close betting after the ball spin…..problem solved! I do well for myself playing, however. I play once a week, sometimes twice, in a team scenerio. I play in a 4 man team I formed about 5 years ago. We play on the grave shift, each using different methods, all working together with a combined bankroll, and we split our profits. On a good nigth, we play for about 2-3 hours and each take home about $500. I use this money to supplement my income and to take vacation every year, and do the things I want to do. Sometimes ill play solo, and Ill keep all of my winnings, I can easily clear a thousand dollar session in about 6-8 hours playing solo, but I only do this maybe once every other week. And to answer the final questin, with the methods I teach, you can predict ball drop by the 4th or 5th revolution, typically. But it all depends on how fast the ball is spinning….it is one of the fastest ways to get a prediction and leaves you with plenty of time for betting. I can actually predict as fast as and many times faster than many roulette computers as I have challenged myself against them in practice many, many times. Good luck to all, and I hope this clears things up a bit.—-Brian

Played a little more this afternoon, did well. Only played an hour, made a little over $80. Not bad for an hours work. The dealer asked me why I was betting late and staring at the wheel, and I told them that I was supersticious and had to wait for a certain amount of time to bet or its bad luck. I guess not all casino personnel understand about VB and wheel clocking. Oh yeah, and at the advice of Brian…..I tipped well! He was right, the dealer gave me a little extra time to bet because I was tipping good…not that I needed it, but its always nice. Keep ya posted.

tomuen - 29 December 2011 06:58 AM

Posted: 03 November

Ive copied this form one of the posts at the forum!!Is this true??

Hi everybody i got scammed by the so called brain i asked for a refund of my money, he said i was not using the so called system properly. After a few emails to and fro he said he would send me picture proof guess what never arrived, after more emails still no refund i contacted paypal they said 45 days had lapsed so no refund from them.
He obviously drags things out for 45 days then he wins, but i am not finished yet
tom

You’re spot on mate and I would just advise anyone thinking of parting with their hard earned to not only read the above post but his conversations with myself under ‘Does Brian sell systems on this forum?’ and ‘For Maria”

This guy is not only a con but it you read these posts (and the one he will leave here shortly) you will see that he is not only a con artist but a very sick individual.
I made a promise to the forum to only speak to this person thru his web site but unfortunately he doesn’t answer my questions there. He only comments when he thinks he is entertaining this forum and I can’t sit by and let him lie to you all.

I will only answer this person thru his web site as his last rants disturbed some members and I promised I would not get involved in a fight on the forum again.

I haven’t been on the forum for a while but I hope I managed to save some one before they lost their money.
Cheers
Dave
PS Don’t believe the good references as he writes most of them himself.  If you study the way they are written you can tell it is Brian writing them.  All he has to do is start up another membership using a google or hot mail account.  Oldest trick in the book!

Yes i saw that post and was quite shocked by it!

Tiki would have everyone here believe I have mulitiple personalities both on this forum as well as in life, but the truth is that I am a roulette expert, and anyone questioning the validity of this statement can read some of my earlier posts and see that the info I put on this forum is sound and based upon the physics of the game. The true con artist on this forum is Tiki, as he leads people to beleive that any method which truly yeilds results is bogus and the proprieter a scammer. All he is doing is hurting those who would like to learn the art of AP but who would unfortunately believe his lies. If you check ANY of his posts from the day he first joined this forum…and I mean ANY OF THEM…I garuntee you will not find one single shred of evidence that this guy is an authority on the subject of roulette or anything else for that matter. Do not be fooled by this member, he is a novice at best when it comes to the game, and only wishes to hold back those who come to this forum seeking the advice and guidence of a professional such as myself. True, we had a spat a while back, but I prevailed, he left, and the forum was better for it. Im done with that. Lucky streak is a student of mine, he became a member of my website a week ago, and he is seeing great results…but he also works hard and does his homework. We have been cooresponding back and forth for the past week and he has been excelling as a result. This is what it takes to beat the game of roulette, practice, dedication, and the guidence of a professional such as myself who has been beating this game for years. I challenge Tiki to offer one bit of insight into the game of roulette which could potentially help the members of this forum, or back the validity of his claim to be an authority on the game and an experienced player, if he can do this…I will leave this forum forever. But he will not, because he has no insight to offer…unless he copies and pastes it from one of my threads. I have been playing and dealing roulette long enough to know what works and what does not, I have been in the trenches and I have developed TRUE winning strategies which I have been teaching others for the past 5 years now. I dont claim to have been playing and winning for 30 plus years and just expect everyone to take my word for it….I back my claims up. Read my posts on advantage play techniques, or wheel clocking, or DS recognition, or creating your own custome AP method, and dispute the information contained in those threads, Tiki…..I challenge you. To all the members of this forum, I challenge you to not be misled and misinformed by true scammers such as tiki, and to stear clear of many of the strategies offered on this forum which offer no true advantage for the player whatsoever, and dedicate your time to learning VB and the various AP techniques therein, whether they come from myself or from another qualified and experienced member. I have only had 2 of my students ever post on these forums and leave a review of my system, and I appreciate them greatly. I invite those who wish to comment on the validity of my system, and thier success with it, to continue to post thier success stories for all to read, though they will no doubt be charged by some as scammers or one of the many personalities possesed by myself. haha. Thank you luckystreak777, keep up the good work, and good luck to everyone.—-Brian

tomuen - 31 December 2011 11:15 AM

Yes i saw that post and was quite shocked by it!

Hi Amrik

That’s why I have given you the ‘thumbs up’. You are an honest man who accepts others opinions and acts in a polite manner at all times.  Most importantly you have your clients interests at heart.
Good on you and have a happy new year!!

Happy new year to all the forum.
Dave