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Progression for dozens or columns
Posted: 24 July 2012 03:46 PM   [ Ignore ]
BlueThreeFour
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Hi,

Does anyone one have a progression when betting on 2 columns or 2 dozens at the one time?

Thanks

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Posted: 27 July 2012 05:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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BlueThreeFour - 24 July 2012 03:46 PM

Hi,

Does anyone one have a progression when betting on 2 columns or 2 dozens at the one time?

Thanks


here you go:

1,1 profit 1
3,3 profit 1
9,9 profit 1   ect ect times by 3…................next 27,27

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Posted: 08 August 2012 12:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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tomuen - 27 July 2012 05:51 AM
BlueThreeFour - 24 July 2012 03:46 PM

Hi,

Does anyone one have a progression when betting on 2 columns or 2 dozens at the one time?

Thanks


here you go:

1,1 profit 1
3,3 profit 1
9,9 profit 1   ect ect times by 3…................next 27,27

WHen you play on Betvoyager you can play:

        Chance to win
1   0,01   0,01   66,66666667
2   0,03   0,03   88,88888889
3   0,09   0,09   96,2962963
4   0,27   0,27   98,7654321
5   0,81   0,81   99,58847737
6   2,43   2,43   99,86282579
7   7,29   7,29   99,95427526
8   21,87   21,87   99,98475842
9   65,61   65,61   99,99491947
9   196,83   196,83   99,99830649

Not a bad system to try. In all my testing I have never seen more than 8 consecutive spins giving the same dozen as outcome but statistically this can happen as you see in the percentage of chances to win. I need to check if you total bet can be as high as 400 (combined bets) in betvoyager but in any case you shoudl be able to use progression nr 9. The chances to win are then 99,9949% which certainly is not bad at all. 

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CO

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Posted: 03 October 2012 12:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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The progression this guy is referring to is called the Martingale. Please don’t learn the hard way with that one. There is a reason why digital casino’s offer a double bet so you don’t have to to track it. Be sure to stay away from any type of Martingale betting routine. It will only win in the short term. These numbers get way out of whack way too quickly. That said, you are on the right track.  I have a legitimate system that I am working on which involves your theory of covering 2/3 of the board, but highly more in depth with many safeguard set in place to overcome unimaginable loosing streaks. At this point I can not disclose any information as I do not want this to go until my due diligence is complete. If anything, I sincerely hope you take my advice and not execute the recommended plan on the double/triple up negative progression formula.

tomuen - 27 July 2012 05:51 AM
BlueThreeFour - 24 July 2012 03:46 PM

Hi,

Does anyone one have a progression when betting on 2 columns or 2 dozens at the one time?

Thanks


here you go:

1,1 profit 1
3,3 profit 1
9,9 profit 1   ect ect times by 3…................next 27,27

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Posted: 03 October 2012 11:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I agree that Martingale in whatever creates a risk but having said this I think it is worthwhile to look at the chances.

Most of the time Martingale is a big risk because the table limits or the Bankroll of the player are the limiting factors causing the player to suffer a big loss after a number of small wins.  But risk can be calculated. If I walk in the street there is a certain chance that I will be killed by a car. But we consdier the chance small enough to accept that risk and we do go out of our houses.

I usually play on betvoyager where the table ratio (max/min) is extremely high : 200/0,01= 20000. And this allows to play 15 progressions.
Adn As I play with 0,01 as unit the max I risk is approx 320 euro.  And I can easily afford this risk.
Of course the winnings come in very slow but a bot is helpful fro this aspect.

See many martingale advocates on the internet claim thet a row of 10 R or B is the max risk and this is not true. Of course I can have bad luck and run into a loosing strike of more than 15 progressions and then I do loose money but even this risk can be mitigated and so far 12 bad strikes ( winnign at progression 13 ) is the worst I have experienced so far.  So I play taking a calculated ( and acceptable) risk. 

Cheers
CO

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Posted: 03 October 2012 06:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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You are betting almost $200 to win a $1 in your example. I would highly recommend playing the rows or columns in a progression and do not 1/1 betting in roulette. Maximize your potential to gain and play baccarat if you enjoy 1/1 payouts. The risk is simply not worth the return especially with the zeros involved.

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Posted: 10 October 2012 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I like to play at the NO-Zero table of betvoyager. This eliminates the house edge. Secondly you are write that the max progression CAN be 200 but in reality I hgave not yet seen a higher bet needed than bet nr 6 (2,43) and even if bet nr 7 would be needed this would be quite acceptable. But I always wnat to know how far I can progress. This is the eternal dilemma. If you have a low stop loss than in the end at best you break even but you will never make money. If you can keep in the game very very long and you do not play continuously ( so you miss the exceptional high bad strike) than you may be able to really win big and very lomg time.

It is all about taking CALCULATED risks.

Cheers
CO

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Posted: 10 October 2012 05:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Hi Blue 3 4
I would rather choose one dozen and one column.Bet either as single bets or both together on the layout which involves 20 numbers.
Betting singles you will sometimes win 4 points and with one winner 1 point and can win 20 times in 37 spins.
Betting twenty numbers gives you a mathematical advantage of 20 / 17 -
If you decide to continue betting 2 dozens or 2 columns I suggest betting the last two winners as we all know , losing streaks can last for some time.
i am biased against using progressions but with good reason.

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Posted: 14 October 2012 01:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Any type of progression MAY kill your BR but so does most Flat betting.

It is all about taking calculated risks. Nothing more, nothing less.

Calculate your chances and then decide if it is worth the risk.

Cheers
CO

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Posted: 17 October 2012 04:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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How about betting on the last two Dozen/Column to appear, this way you take advantage of repeated Dozens/Columns.

The only thing that will get in your way is if the sequence goes: Dozen 123 123 123 etc…
Which if im not mistaken is what project x looks for you to bet on.    OK, BRAINWAVE, how about using project X and if it tells you to bet on a certain Dozen/Column, bet on the opposite, if you get a long sequence where 22 times your project X bet didnt come in you would be taking full advantage of that scenario.

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Posted: 10 February 2013 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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CasinoObserver - 08 August 2012 12:45 PM
tomuen - 27 July 2012 05:51 AM
BlueThreeFour - 24 July 2012 03:46 PM

Hi,

Does anyone one have a progression when betting on 2 columns or 2 dozens at the one time?

Thanks


here you go:

1,1 profit 1
3,3 profit 1
9,9 profit 1   ect ect times by 3…................next 27,27

WHen you play on Betvoyager you can play:

        Chance to win
1   0,01   0,01   66,66666667
2   0,03   0,03   88,88888889
3   0,09   0,09   96,2962963
4   0,27   0,27   98,7654321
5   0,81   0,81   99,58847737
6   2,43   2,43   99,86282579
7   7,29   7,29   99,95427526
8   21,87   21,87   99,98475842
9   65,61   65,61   99,99491947
9   196,83   196,83   99,99830649

Not a bad system to try. In all my testing I have never seen more than 8 consecutive spins giving the same dozen as outcome but statistically this can happen as you see in the percentage of chances to win. I need to check if you total bet can be as high as 400 (combined bets) in betvoyager but in any case you shoudl be able to use progression nr 9. The chances to win are then 99,9949% which certainly is not bad at all. 

Cheers
CO

just wait for column or dozen that hasn’t shown in 8 plus spins then start progression…..don’t need math goofs to weigh in here….back off

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Posted: 10 February 2013 05:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Treetopbuddy. 

Sorry to say but you seem to mis the crucial point of the above math.
Yes you can wait for one dozen to not show 8 times and then start to bet with progression.But fact is that in internet casino’s we have seen dozens/columns not (!) show for 31 x and it can be more also. When you deduct the 8 you still need to progress 23 times and then still you may loose you entire BR.

The above math is for 2 dozens not to show 9 or 10 times. which in fact measn that one (!) dozen shows for 9 or 10 times (en then only on a non-zero table) .
So do not jump to conclusions and do not underestimate the value of math

Cheers
CO

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Posted: 15 November 2014 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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tomuen - 27 July 2012 05:51 AM
BlueThreeFour - 24 July 2012 03:46 PM

Hi,

Does anyone one have a progression when betting on 2 columns or 2 dozens at the one time?

Thanks


here you go:

1,1 profit 1
3,3 profit 1
9,9 profit 1   ect ect times by 3…................next 27,27

Very Risky when coming to a repeat of 5 times in 1 column ...if U dare to win 1 unit from 162 x 2 units?


I found the secret but not advisable for play as I hv better formula and better profit for Liner and Street Bets….


This is because U are not confident to win and U lack knowledge of real system that really can win in per hour rate (500 RM to 5000 RM per hour)

dun play luck, play by capital and mathematics….


““Martingale System has already evolved , and I accidentally found the secret and solve the catch…the above “double up” play for Even Bet is OUTDATED LONG AGO.  Don’t ever play OUTSIDE BET, BE IT EVEN MONEY BET OR THE COLUMN BET, BECAUSE THE PROFIT IS LOW AND RISK IS HIGH (CAN ALSO MODIFY IT IF POSSIBLE)  Many has used 1,3,7,15,31 progressive series and not 1,2,4 8,,,,,,,for Martingale System and even HOT in Playing Baccarat, and killed their bankroll.

Just bring along RM 3,000 come and meet me at Casino de Genting Malaysia, so U will be safe and comfortable to win from RM 500 to 5000 depends on the system I used and the longer U play the longer Ur bankrolled and safe/self financed…Come since Land Base Casino is No Cheat with CCTV and safe. “” 


I already solve this problem, I modified this and applicable to go Land Base Casino to win

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Posted: 15 November 2014 12:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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CasinoObserver - 03 October 2012 11:36 AM

I agree that Martingale in whatever creates a risk but having said this I think it is worthwhile to look at the chances.

Most of the time Martingale is a big risk because the table limits or the Bankroll of the player are the limiting factors causing the player to suffer a big loss after a number of small wins.  But risk can be calculated. If I walk in the street there is a certain chance that I will be killed by a car. But we consdier the chance small enough to accept that risk and we do go out of our houses.

I usually play on betvoyager where the table ratio (max/min) is extremely high : 200/0,01= 20000. And this allows to play 15 progressions.
Adn As I play with 0,01 as unit the max I risk is approx 320 euro.  And I can easily afford this risk.
Of course the winnings come in very slow but a bot is helpful fro this aspect.

See many martingale advocates on the internet claim thet a row of 10 R or B is the max risk and this is not true. Of course I can have bad luck and run into a loosing strike of more than 15 progressions and then I do loose money but even this risk can be mitigated and so far 12 bad strikes ( winnign at progression 13 ) is the worst I have experienced so far.  So I play taking a calculated ( and acceptable) risk. 

Cheers
CO


No… Not good enough… don’t play even bet and column bet go inside and play Liner and Street, more profit and less risk and smaller bank roll

Very Risky when coming to a repeat of 5 times in 1 column ...if U dare to win 1 unit from 162 x 2 units?


I found the secret but not advisable for play as I hv better formula and better profit for Liner and Street Bets….


This is because U are not confident to win and U lack knowledge of real system that really can win in per hour rate (500 RM to 5000 RM per hour)

dun play luck, play by capital and mathematics….


““Martingale System has already evolved , and I accidentally found the secret and solve the catch…the above “double up” play for Even Bet is OUTDATED LONG AGO.  Don’t ever play OUTSIDE BET, BE IT EVEN MONEY BET OR THE COLUMN BET, BECAUSE THE PROFIT IS LOW AND RISK IS HIGH (CAN ALSO MODIFY IT IF POSSIBLE)  Many has used 1,3,7,15,31 progressive series and not 1,2,4 8,,,,,,,for Martingale System and even HOT in Playing Baccarat, and killed their bankroll.

Just bring along RM 3,000 come and meet me at Casino de Genting Malaysia, so U will be safe and comfortable to win from RM 500 to 5000 depends on the system I used and the longer U play the longer Ur bankrolled and safe/self financed…Come since Land Base Casino is No Cheat with CCTV and safe. “”

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Posted: 15 November 2014 12:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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CasinoObserver - 10 February 2013 05:03 PM

Treetopbuddy. 

Sorry to say but you seem to mis the crucial point of the above math.
Yes you can wait for one dozen to not show 8 times and then start to bet with progression.But fact is that in internet casino’s we have seen dozens/columns not (!) show for 31 x and it can be more also. When you deduct the 8 you still need to progress 23 times and then still you may loose you entire BR.

The above math is for 2 dozens not to show 9 or 10 times. which in fact measn that one (!) dozen shows for 9 or 10 times (en then only on a non-zero table) .
So do not jump to conclusions and do not underestimate the value of math

Cheers
CO

Yes maths and capital is the most important fact to win…

Very Risky when coming to a repeat of 5 times in 1 column ...if U dare to win 1 unit from 162 x 2 units?


I found the secret but not advisable for play as I hv better formula and better profit for Liner and Street Bets….


This is because U are not confident to win and U lack knowledge of real system that really can win in per hour rate (500 RM to 5000 RM per hour)

dun play luck, play by capital and mathematics….


““Martingale System has already evolved , and I accidentally found the secret and solve the catch…the above “double up” play for Even Bet is OUTDATED LONG AGO.  Don’t ever play OUTSIDE BET, BE IT EVEN MONEY BET OR THE COLUMN BET, BECAUSE THE PROFIT IS LOW AND RISK IS HIGH (CAN ALSO MODIFY IT IF POSSIBLE)  Many has used 1,3,7,15,31 progressive series and not 1,2,4 8,,,,,,,for Martingale System and even HOT in Playing Baccarat, and killed their bankroll.

Just bring along RM 3,000 come and meet me at Casino de Genting Malaysia, so U will be safe and comfortable to win from RM 500 to 5000 depends on the system I used and the longer U play the longer Ur bankrolled and safe/self financed…Come since Land Base Casino is No Cheat with CCTV and safe. “”

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