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Hi
Just published an Ebook on Smashwords.com
About roulette , of course, and gives a basic idea which
punters can use in their Bet selection. I think it is an unique idea
for roulette. The title is ;
” Roulette Ignore the Wheel Use the Maths.”
by ” Fergus Lee ”
Advocating using maths in roulette seems unusual
in roulette forums these days so I am trying to reach a wider audience.
Regards
Scepticus

Hi Guys
I intend making my “Ebook Roulette Ignore the Wheel ” free very soon so click into the link,download. read and digest and give me your opinion. Particularly the Double Dozens which I claim gives the Bettor an “Edge ” “Chance ” still rules though.
The Introduction is longer than I intended because you have to give a sample for viewers to read.
Regards
Scepticus

Hi Scepticus. Thanks for you free book. It is good to have the old truths repeated. Only blockheads think that they know what is happening in the next spin or the long run. Only blockheads think that Martingale and other progressions can save them. And gamblingt might be dangerous to our blockheads. Practice before risking your money.
“Ignore the Wheel. Just do the Maths”. I´d like to. But I am almost lost in all your BLOCKS in the text.
If you are betting one dozen and one column at the same time, this includes 20 numbers. If you win, the chance of winning both is just 4/20 or1/5. The dozen and column have four numbers in common.
Adding those numbers to your betting (Straight Up) might be dangerous. Maybe you´ll lose on Straight Up the next 100 times.

Thanks for that Dane.
But you have misunderstood the point of the Blocks.
Any one of these demolishes the contention that we cannot use previous
winning numbers in trying to predict future winning numbers.As all horse
race bettors know, all horses in a “treble ” are linked .If any one loses
then the treble is lost even though the other two win - and if the first one wins
then the other two , being linked with it - are very much alive.so if the first
one or two in any of my trebles wins then the third and fourth are very much
alive because , assuming no zero as in a No Zero table, then a treble is guaranteed..
If you check the Double Dozens you will find that there are 4 possibilities
which means any ONE is a 3/1 shot but you are paid 7/2 if it wins so you have
an “EDGE” which , in turn, means that the mindless morons who parrot that you
cannot win “In The Long Run” must now accept that we can win “In The Long Run “.
The Dozens and Columns illustration was only an introductory lesson on how to
manipulate the numbers.You can take it further by eliminating some numbers to
make yourself a ” system “For instance, you could eliminate all the Reds or all
the Blacks .. Or all the Red/Even and Black/Odds.But whatever you do first check
that the maths justifies your bet. Or you could use it in betting either Red or Black.
it.s up to you what use you make of it . Or you could decide that I am talking a lot
of crap and not use it !
Your money. Your call !
Regards

Thanks to scepticus. I am a newbie, and English is not my first language. But I am truly impressed by your colourfull in your book and here! Linguistics and mathematics might be different subjecs.
I consider myself to be a math blockhead; and I still do not know , if your horses and blocks rock the independent events. Maybe I should read it again.
Cheers
Dane

Thanks to scepticus. I am a newbie, and English is not my first language. But I am truly impressed by your colourfull in your book and here! Linguistics and mathematics might be different subjecs.
I consider myself to be a math blockhead; and I still do not know , if your horses and blocks rock the independent events. Maybe I should read it again.
Cheers
Dane

Yet there is no reason why any of Scep’s should beat roulette and the house edge. Dane…. do yourself a favour and stop playing roulette IF you were considering a professional carreer in the subject. You will loose. If you have money and you are doing it for fun, well then for the pleasure of blind betting feel free and go ahead. I actually have come to the conclusion that Scep isn’t a dishonest scammer. I think he believes what he is doing BUT having said that, it is no different than any of the 1000’s of variants tried before and what they all fail at is that the math of roulette is not beatable. It is that simple. 37 numbers, payout 35/1. As with slots, a lock up house edge.

Thanks to scepticus. I am a newbie, and English is not my first language. But I am truly impressed by your colourfull in your book and here! Linguistics and mathematics might be different subjecs.
I consider myself to be a math blockhead; and I still do not know , if your horses and blocks rock the independent events. Maybe I should read it again.
Cheers
Dane

Hi Dane
You don’t really need maths to use the Blocks. I thought it best to give you the actual betting conclusions so you might
better understand what I mean.
For those who don’t know what the hell I am on about
download my FREE book “Roulette .Ignore the Wheel
Use the Maths” by Fergus Lee. Download from “SMASHWORDS ” or ” KINDLE “
Here goes !
Taking Block Number 1 as our example and taking them line by line we get the following ;
Should the first two spins be
1
1
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 3
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
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Should the first two spins be
1
2
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 2
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
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Should the first two spins be
1
3
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 2 and 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
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Should the first two spins be
2
1
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 2
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
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Should the first two spins be
2
2
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 2 and 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
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Should the first two spins be
2
3
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 3
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
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Should the first two spins be
3
1
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 2 and 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
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Should the first two spins be
3
2
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 3
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
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Should the first two spins be
3
3
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 2
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
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So there you have it . The last two spins
indicate the next two spins. No matter
which “treble ” you choose you should
win in the famous ” Long Run ” !

Thanks to scepticus. I am a newbie, and English is not my first language. But I am truly impressed by your colourfull in your book and here! Linguistics and mathematics might be different subjecs.
I consider myself to be a math blockhead; and I still do not know , if your horses and blocks rock the independent events. Maybe I should read it again.
Cheers
Dane

Hi Dane
You don’t really need maths to use the Blocks. I thought it best to give you the actual betting conclusions so you might
better understand what I mean.
For those who don’t know what the hell I am on about
download my FREE book “Roulette .Ignore the Wheel
Use the Maths” by Fergus Lee. Download from “SMASHWORDS ” or ” KINDLE “
Here goes !
Taking Block Number 1 as our example and taking them line by line we get the following ;
Should the first two spins be
1
1
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 3
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
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Should the first two spins be
1
2
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 2
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
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Should the first two spins be
1
3
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 2 and 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
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Should the first two spins be
2
1
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 2
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
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Should the first two spins be
2
2
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 2 and 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
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Should the first two spins be
2
3
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 3
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
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Should the first two spins be
3
1
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 2 and 3
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
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Should the first two spins be
3
2
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 3
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 2
If 3 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
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Should the first two spins be
3
3
then bet on the 3rd spin Dozens 1 and 2
If 1 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 3
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 1
If 2 wins then if you chose 1-2-4 bet 2
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 1-3-4 bet 1
” ” ” ” ” ” ” 2-3-4 bet 3
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So there you have it . The last two spins
indicate the next two spins. No matter
which “treble ” you choose you should
win in the famous ” Long Run ” !

Scep. Why would you win in the longterm doing this? Where do you gain an advantage and why?

Thanks to scepticus. I am a newbie, and English is not my first language. But I am truly impressed by your colourfull in your book and here! Linguistics and mathematics might be different subjecs.
I consider myself to be a math blockhead; and I still do not know , if your horses and blocks rock the independent events. Maybe I should read it again.
Cheers
Dane

yes, you should Dane.
The advantage of the 4 trebles in the nine column block
is that while you have to choose 1 from the 4 you collect 9 chips should you win thus getting 7 / 2 for a 3 / 1 shot and,
assuming no zero, one treble is guaranteed.
Strange as it may seem, given that 3 have already won the fourth of any 1234 has not the 1 in 3 chance that we may think but an incredible 1 chance in 81 ! How so ?
The chance of any 4 in 4 being correct is 3x3x3x3 = 81.So even if we have 3 correct the chance it is still 80 / 1 against all four being correct.
Taken together the nine blocks contain all the 81 variations
so any one line has all the other 80 ranged against it .
Strange but true !
This means that we can safely consider 80 bets in every average 81 bets as having only 8 doubles to choose from rather than 9 so any two we choose has a true 1 in 4 chance of winning-except ,of course, the 3 and 4 of our 1 2 3 4 .
We must, however, allow for that 1 in 81 to occur. Even with 2 series of 38 spins on a 2 zero table we still have an advantage. As I have consistently pointed out though, an
advantage does NOT mean you are certain to profit, only that you are more likely to profit than to lose ! There can be
no certainty in gambling !
I illustrate below the difference between betting the 3rd to lose on every spin as a “single ” compared to betting the 9 column doubles.As you will note the doubles have an advantage.This is because some of the “singles” bets are the 2nd of our “doubles ” and so can’t be the three of the next bet. .I chose to bet the 1 2 4 because taken with 1 2 3 they have 5 chances between them so , if the 3rd loses I think it has a better chance than the other two picks.
These are taken from two cards I have and are used only for the purpose of illustration. You can use your own for checking
Card 1- Bet as singles.
3rd won 15 times = minus 30
3rd lost 28 times =plus 28
Zero 2 times= minus 4
Therefore Loss of 6 points

Card 1 - Bet as 1- 2- 4 “treble”
3rd won 4 times= minus 8
1-3-4 won 5 times=minus 10
2-3-4 won 5 times= minus 10
zero 2 times = minus 4
1-2-4 won 9 times = plus 63
Therefore 1-2-4 Profit 31 points.

Card 2 Bet as singles
3rd won 26 times = minus 52
3rd lost 50 times= plus 50
zero 4 times = minus 8
Therefore Loss of 10 points

Card 2 Bet as 1-2-4- “ treble “
3rd won 17 times = minus 34
zeros 4 times = minus 8
1-3-4 won 10 times= minus 20
2-3-4 won 9 times = minus 18
1-2-4 won 11 times = plus 77
Therefore Loss of 3 points
Should you do your own analysis of random numbers I think you will find this to be largely true. by Fergus Lee
Those who wonder what this is all about could download my
FREE Ebook “Roulette Ignore the Wheel Use the Maths” from SMASHWORDS or Kindle.
by Fergus Lee

Thanks to scepticus. I am a newbie, and English is not my first language. But I am truly impressed by your colourfull in your book and here! Linguistics and mathematics might be different subjecs.
I consider myself to be a math blockhead; and I still do not know , if your horses and blocks rock the independent events. Maybe I should read it again.
Cheers
Dane

yes, you should Dane.
The advantage of the 4 trebles in the nine column block
is that while you have to choose 1 from the 4 you collect 9 chips should you win thus getting 7 / 2 for a 3 / 1 shot and,
assuming no zero, one treble is guaranteed.
Strange as it may seem, given that 3 have already won the fourth of any 1234 has not the 1 in 3 chance that we may think but an incredible 1 chance in 81 ! How so ?
The chance of any 4 in 4 being correct is 3x3x3x3 = 81.So even if we have 3 correct the chance it is still 80 / 1 against all four being correct.
Taken together the nine blocks contain all the 81 variations
so any one line has all the other 80 ranged against it .
Strange but true !
This means that we can safely consider 80 bets in every average 81 bets as having only 8 doubles to choose from rather than 9 so any two we choose has a true 1 in 4 chance of winning-except ,of course, the 3 and 4 of our 1 2 3 4 .
We must, however, allow for that 1 in 81 to occur. Even with 2 series of 38 spins on a 2 zero table we still have an advantage. As I have consistently pointed out though, an
advantage does NOT mean you are certain to profit, only that you are more likely to profit than to lose ! There can be
no certainty in gambling !
I illustrate below the difference between betting the 3rd to lose on every spin as a “single ” compared to betting the 9 column doubles.As you will note the doubles have an advantage.This is because some of the “singles” bets are the 2nd of our “doubles ” and so can’t be the three of the next bet. .I chose to bet the 1 2 4 because taken with 1 2 3 they have 5 chances between them so , if the 3rd loses I think it has a better chance than the other two picks.
These are taken from two cards I have and are used only for the purpose of illustration. You can use your own for checking
Card 1- Bet as singles.
3rd won 15 times = minus 30
3rd lost 28 times =plus 28
Zero 2 times= minus 4
Therefore Loss of 6 points

Card 1 - Bet as 1- 2- 4 “treble”
3rd won 4 times= minus 8
1-3-4 won 5 times=minus 10
2-3-4 won 5 times= minus 10
zero 2 times = minus 4
1-2-4 won 9 times = plus 63
Therefore 1-2-4 Profit 31 points.

Card 2 Bet as singles
3rd won 26 times = minus 52
3rd lost 50 times= plus 50
zero 4 times = minus 8
Therefore Loss of 10 points

Card 2 Bet as 1-2-4- “ treble “
3rd won 17 times = minus 34
zeros 4 times = minus 8
1-3-4 won 10 times= minus 20
2-3-4 won 9 times = minus 18
1-2-4 won 11 times = plus 77
Therefore Loss of 3 points
Should you do your own analysis of random numbers I think you will find this to be largely true.
Those who wonder what this is all about could download my
FREE Ebook “Roulette Ignore the Wheel Use the Maths” from SMASHWORDS or Kindle.
by Fergus Lee

Hi all
As there has been little interest in either my free Ebook or my posts
I’ll cancel the freebie on 31st March and stop posting on this thread.
( Who said Hooray ! )
scepticus

From what you wrote about your book, and from many other posts of your, it seems we may think along the same, or very similar, lines. I can’t find your book anywhere now; any chance I could still get a free copy? In return, I promise to post my comments on it in this forum (and I always keep my word!).

From what you wrote about your book, and from many other posts of your, it seems we may think along the same, or very similar, lines. I can’t find your book anywhere now; any chance I could still get a free copy? In return, I promise to post my comments on it in this forum (and I always keep my word!) -dbolton.

I doubt it.

For starters, Scepticus’ math isn’t really math. It’s chaos, mysticism, and superstition. The laws of physics and basic probability don’t apply in his world.

For starters, Scepticus’ math isn’t really math. It’s chaos, mysticism, and superstition. The laws of physics and basic probability don’t apply in his world.

What is it exactly that you doubt, Houston? Your post doesn’t make that clear at all.

rom what you wrote about your book, and from many other posts of your, it seems we may think along the same, or very similar, lines. I can’t find your book anywhere now; any chance I could still get a free copy? In return, I promise to post my comments on it in this forum (and I always keep my word!) -dbolton.

What is it exactly that you doubt, Houston? Your post doesn’t make that clear at all.

Dbolton,

@Dbolton,

What I meant was that I doubt that you think along the same line as Scepticus. Scepticus is way out in left field. His math isn’t math at all. It’s just jibberish.

From what you wrote about your book, and from many other posts of your, it seems we may think along the same, or very similar, lines. I can’t find your book anywhere now; any chance I could still get a free copy? In return, I promise to post my comments on it in this forum (and I always keep my word!).

Have a nice day…. David Bolton

You will find some in this forum that continually trash ideas put forward without themselves putting forward any ideas.
They don’t seem to understand that a FORUM is where ideas are put up for discussion. They are, of course, entitled to their view but it is not helpful to continually put forward the simplistic notion that a disadvantage cannot be overcome. Gambling is about ” beating the odds ” so it is ludicrous to criticise gambling in a gambling forum.
If each spin of the wheel gives a random result then no one can tell with certainty what that result will be. My critics claim certainty of outcome-I do not.
You will find some of my ideas in Scep’s Roulette Strategies.I don’t ask you to agree with me but I do ask that you think about my approach to betting. My “maths"is based on ” assumptions” and if the asssumptions are correct then the result is correct.My critics don’t seem to know the difference between assumptions and maths.
I also ask you to key into The Midnight Skulker link - but also my reply to it in the very next post. Isn’t it ridiculous for MS to claim that we cannot compute the probability of the winning number being BOTH Red and Odd ? Houston seems to be a maths student who continually parrots ” You cannot beat roulette- You cannot beat roulette - Pretty Polly -Pretty Polly “and then himself put forward an idea for beating roulette ! Hilarious ! Despite being told that we do actually know elementary Probability Theory he tells us we don’t. We know, as he obviously doesn’t, that The Long Run is not a certainty but an Expectation - as even the Midnight Skulker would agree.
Both of them belong to a VERY SMALL group in this forum who use a method they call AP (advantage play ).I don’t have a problem with that but , like many, I do object to them trashing other ideas and claiming that theirs is the HG.
Anyone who knows Probability Theory knows that their AP system is flawed and is an example of the Reverse Gamblers’ Fallacy.
Beware of anyone claiming certainty where only uncertainty exists-like roulette !

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